Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by been-there » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:22 am

Huntinger wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:55 am
I find the following BBC report compelling and truthful. It shows the awful horror at Belsen at the end of the war after a total breakdown of society due to Allied bombing. In reality it is not the Germans who were complicit in this crime but the Allies; the Germans had no control, no food, no clean water, no medicine, no help. Belsen was surrendered to the British April 15, 1945. The Germans were little better off than the inmates at this camp and yes typhus was rampant. There is no mention of Jude or gassing, just the honest conditions of the rout of society.
The facts are is that the allies bombed the Reich into total submission, no food, no medicine...nothing. They then claim that the Reich caused the misery on these unfortunate victims seen in the videos. This is a true case where the criminals have laid blame on the victims. The criminals are the allied forces who could have sent supplies in, especially medicine, clean food and water. If there was a holocaust they must look at themselves.
Well said!
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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by Friedrich Paul Berg » Wed May 08, 2019 1:21 pm

In other words, there is NO "proof" that even one Jew was ever gassed to death by the Nazis anywhere, ever. That statemnent should deflate the Holocaust hoax quickly--but because people are thoroughly brainwashed, it will still take a while before sanity asserts itself.

The holocaust hoax is anti-German racism with the most vicious lies imaginable concocted and promoted in every way by the Jews, who else--as if it was history which it is not. Judaism itself is racism directed at everyone, so no one should be surprised when it also attacked the people most educated to see through them and their communist hell on earth, namely the Germans.

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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by Nessie » Wed May 15, 2019 5:42 am

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 1:21 pm
In other words, there is NO "proof" ...
What would constitute "proof"?

Normally, evidence such as transport records and witnesses which show named people were taken to a specific camp and multiple witnesses speak to those arriving transports being gassed at that camp, is proof.

The denier tactic is to discuss that evidence of gassing and to find reasons to disbelieve it. The claim is then made, therefore no gassings. But that is a logical fallacy and only a fool would use a logical fallacy to try and evidence and prove a claim.

The way to prove no gassings is to look for evidence that something else happened. The only alternative to the gassings, since the camps were far too small to accommodate all the arrivals, is that those people then left the camp. There is no evidence of mass departures, which there would be if it happened. Deniers cannot evidence what they claim happened.

That then verifies the evidence for gassing as being correct, despite denier incredulity and that means, evidentially, logically, scientifically, empirically and legally, gassing has been proved.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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Re: Prove that at least one Jew was definitely gassed with supporting hard data such as when and where?

Post by Smallhausen » Wed May 15, 2019 5:53 am

Nessie wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 5:42 am
Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 1:21 pm
In other words, there is NO "proof" ...
What would constitute "proof"?

Normally, evidence such as transport records and witnesses which show named people were taken to a specific camp and multiple witnesses speak to those arriving transports being gassed at that camp, is proof.

The denier tactic is to discuss that evidence of gassing and to find reasons to disbelieve it. The claim is then made, therefore no gassings. But that is a logical fallacy and only a fool would use a logical fallacy to try and evidence and prove a claim.

The way to prove no gassings is to look for evidence that something else happened. The only alternative to the gassings, since the camps were far too small to accommodate all the arrivals, is that those people then left the camp. There is no evidence of mass departures, which there would be if it happened. Deniers cannot evidence what they claim happened.

That then verifies the evidence for gassing as being correct, despite denier incredulity and that means, evidentially, logically, scientifically, empirically and legally, gassing has been proved.
PROOF IS medical forensic evidence which can be verified against known standards. This thread is not to discuss your views on tactics or logical fallacies. I can only strongly suggest if you have no evidence then say nothing OK. Arrivals, those who left is just anecdotes correlated perhaps with possibilities. This is not accepted. Friedrich and the world demand proper evidence. Thank you for your continued compliance in this quest for truth. There is absolutely no hard evidence of any gassing event but hearsay.
Nothing has been proved at all but you have the opportunity here and everyone is patient, especially me. As there is no evidence anything untoward happened why should anyone look to an alternative as you suggest, but that is veering off topic. Provide hard evidence and then when the "deniers" feel they are losing then they can veer towards an alternative. I have as more information comes to light which involves the culpability of the allied forces in the Apocalypse of Europe but that is also off topic. Please find hard evidence of a single gassing event of a single Jude.
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