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Post by Werd » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:53 pm

Not only is YALE F. EDEIKEN a horrible researcher and logician, he is also a horrible person threatening people with physical violence.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... J5GrVXx_Vk
Intro: Look at what Yale F. Edeiken declared is "fleont" and at what he did!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revi ... c12e?fwc=1
(Archived locally as YFEadmits Felony_1 and YFEadmits Felony_2)
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Subject: Re: WHY NOT GIVE THE NAZI SHITHEAD TAVISH A CALL AND THEN BE HUNTED
DOWN FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!
Date: 1999/12/21
Message-ID: <385f...@news3.enter.net>

Defendant Tavish <sonn...@flash.net> wrote in message
news:83n35t22aka@news1.newsguy.com...

>Care to make a list of the "crimes" that YOU think I'll be paying for? Care
>to tell me of the date when I will be arraigned, indicted or charged?

Start with death threats. Sent over the internet. A fleont under
federal law.
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

A "fleont" is Yale-Speak for felony.

Here is a 100% authentic USENET post where Criminal Yale F. Edeiken posted to
USENET my address and telephone number with this invitation: "VISIT HIM WITH A
BASEBALL BAT."

(The following post has been archived as: Scott Bradburys personal info AND
Scott Bradburys personal info2 [Archived locally June 14, 2003] as well as
YFEbaseballBatThreat_1 as well as YFEbaseballBatThreat_1.jpg and
YFEbaseballBatThreat_2.jpg )

For this USENET post I will mung certain things such as my address and telephone
number as well as the Message ID and the GOOGLE URL to the post below lest wise
my enemies will accuse me of posting my own confidential information. Anyone
with GOOGLE savvy will be able to verify the following. I will use an "X" or an
"x" in all critical places in some of the following posts for the reason stated.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skep ... 58e5?fwc=1
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Subject: Scott Bradbury's personal information.
Date: 2000/07/10
Message-ID: <396937A2...@enter.net>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Accept-Language: en
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <ab...@enter.net>, We Care <ab...@newsread.com>
X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 963196844 207.16.157.160 (Sun, 09 Jul 2000 22:40:44
EDT)
Organization: ENTER.net (enter.net)
MIME-Version: 1.0
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 22:40:44 EDT
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,sci.skeptic

USE THIS INFORMATION TO PLACE A LAWSUIT AGAINST DEFENDANT BRADBURY OR TO
VISIT HIM WITH A BASEBALL BAT.

Scott Bradbury
13 N. Xxxxxxxx St.
Xxxxxxxxx XX XXXXX
XXX XXXX-3XXX

Scott Bradbury of Xxxxxxxxx, Xxxxx, is well-know for the perverted
charactiture of Christianity which he espouses and for spamming his
basically incoherent ravings to dozens of unrelated newsgroups. He is a
notorious liar and anti-Semite whose activities are characterized by
utter dishonesty and include such criminal activities as forging the
posts of others and issuing death threats. He has threatened one person
who exposed his lies with sexual molestation, torture, death and
mutilation. There is, of course, not a word of truth in the venom he
spews so freely.

For a refutation of this and his other lies about the Talmud and Judaism
consult:

http://www.geocities.com/<link munged why advertise his stuff>

--YFE

The Holocaust History Project is at http://<link munged why advertise his stuff>
Talmud apologetics? he must be a Jew.

He also likes to harass revisionists online and he even lost his case in court. He failed to file a brief once too. He also did this.
HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH $60 MILLION FRAUD (And Other Issuing of Bogus Tax Receipts
https://man.general.narkive.com/GUoHRIa ... kor-b-nai-
When attorney Leach asked Mr. Edeiken for a copy of
the complaint when he first becomes involved in the case, he is told "Fuck You"
via e-mail. In plain English, this is not a lawsuit, it is a bizarre war waged
by Mr. Edeiken on a man he has never met. The court should not be a party to
this."
Respectfully submitted
Daylin B. Leach Esquire
The prudent question to why Yale failed to file his brief is answered in this
archive which shows his motive for legal system abuse and how serious he was NOT
in litigating me!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm ... 6&filter=0
Subject: Why Yale F. Edeiken LOST His Appeal..
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:30:59 -0600
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>

Yeah- trotting out the same failed lawsuit against me of which the shyster never
bothered to serve the complaints which makes his: "Defendant Scott Bradbury
admit or deny the truth of the following within thirty (30) days of service
or, by failing to do so, admit the truth of the matters asserted:" RATHER
assinine!

The fact that you keep strutting out a failed lawsuit against me filed by a
bastard who is a pariah of his own legal community shows what a loser and a
little pernicious little shit you are McVay!

--Criminal Yale F. Edeiken's deplorable record:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attdiscdcd.php?id=40290
(Link active October 29, 2003. Archived locally as: shyster_censured)

Attorney ID - 40290
Edeiken, Yale F.
^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^
Pennsylvania Supreme Court Attorney Inquiry
Attorney ID Case County District
40290 122 DB 95 Lehigh II Public Censure Administered 10/20/98
^^^^^^^^^
<STOP>

A PDF file is available which gives a report on the above
122 DB 95 against Shyster Yale Fatso Edeiken:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attopini ... se=122DB95
^^^^^^^
http://www.courts.state.pa.us/OpPosting ... 95.RPT.pdf
(Link active October 28, 2003. Archived locally as: "Edeiken_Gets_His" and
122DB95.RPT)

The Disciplinary Board was content to give Yale F. Edeiken a "private reprimand"
but he continued to act like the psychotic nut case he is and defied them and
refused to appear at his hearing more than once! He was then "forced" to appear
and the "private reprimand" had escalated to "PUBLIC CENSURE" by the highest
court of that bastard's state! Furthermore the Disciplinary Board closed with:
"It is further ORDERED that respondent [Yale F. Edeiken] shall pay costs to the
Disciplinary Board pursuant to Rule 208(g), PaR.D.E." IOW Yale had to pay the
Disciplinary Board to "kick his shyster ass" AFTER the Disciplinary Board of the
Supreme Court of the State of Pennsylvania had to serve numerous notices upon
him and compel him to attend his disciplinary hearing!! Yale also had to pay for
all costs of the investigation too! It's all detailed in that PDF file!! GO
LOOK!!

BTW Yale F. Edeiken had already received one "Private Reprimand" in 1993 and
Yale had received an "Informal Admonition" in 1995! Then the bastard got "PUBLIC
CENSURE" in 1998!!! Looks like Yale F. Edeiken is real shining example of the
legal profession doesn't it? Why that shyster still has his law license is a
mystery to me! His assaulting a Deputy Sheriff should have done him in- in 1990!

I.E.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm ... com&rnum=1
Subject: Edeikook Follies #6 Yale F. Edeiken Goes on a Rampage at His County
Courthouse V2.1 S_0102
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Feb 2004 19:02:18 GMT

Yale is also a perjurer who also makes criminal death threats using subpoenaed
information:

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=im ... &lr=&hl=en
Subject: Sara Salzman Won't Comment on These Forgeries - I Wonder Why!.. V2.0
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Feb 2004 18:21:27 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm ... com&rnum=2
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken Admits Sending Death Threats Over The Internet is a
Federal Crime (Which He Has Done!)
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>

Yale F. Edeiken is a perjurer, a convicted criminal, and a nut case and his
failed lawsuit against me is testament to it and the fact you keep posting it
proves you're running on empty McVay. Read my sig line to see what a nut case
your hero Edeiken is!

Tavish

Special Note: Yale F. Edeiken Esq. of Allentown, Pennsylvania- Supreme Court
ID# 40290 has falsely asserted he was associated with the two law firms
mentioned below-- Todd Miller & Associates and Trainor Law Offices. Both law
firms told me first hand that Yale F. Edeiken was never an attorney at their
firms!! That is fact!
(Archived locally as: YaleTheNut)
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=im ... &lr=&hl=en
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <***@enter.net>
Subject: Re: The Common Thread To All These Cancel Announcements...
Message-ID: <SH9g7.634$***@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:06:26 GMT

Defendant Bradshit <***@my-deja.cpm, ***@ix.netcom,com> wrote
in message news:***@4ax.com...
The guy is a scumbag.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... IXDscuGik8
Yale F. Edeiken = DISCIPLINED and INACTIVE Pathological Liar:

Yale F. Edeiken had already received one "Private Reprimand" in 1993 and had
received an "Informal Admonition" in 1995 and then received "PUBLIC CENSURE" in
1998 and then he claimed this after the three disciplinary actions: "Recently
net terrorist Scott Bradbury and his accomplice Lord Haw Haw have printed the
fact that my name exists on a list of attorneys placed on some website. I have
never been charged with any unethical activity relating to the practice of law."
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt ... b68d1d5b39
(Archived locally as: YaleSuedTwice and YaleSuedTwice2)
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Subject: KOOK WEBSITE
Date: 2000/01/02
Message-ID: <3870...@news3.enter.net>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The web site was entirely correct in its report on Yale F. Edeiken!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.clr.org/pa.html (Archived locally as: clr-org_pa)
Judicial/Attorney Misconduct in Pennsylvania
Following are some of the attorneys or judges who have been reported to
have been disciplined by the State of Pennsylvania for unethical conduct, who
may be a resident of the State of Pennsylvania but was disciplined in another
jurisdiction, transferred to inactive status, sued for malpractice,
incarcerated, whom we understand have been charged with unethical conduct, have
engaged in conduct which tends to defeat the administration of justice, or to
bring the courts and the legal business into disrepute, etc.

[...]

Yale F. Edeiken --Attorney at Law - Supreme Court ID# 40290 (Allentown, PA)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a fact Yale F. Edeiken was "disciplined"
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attdiscdcd.php?id=40290
(Link active October 29, 2003. Archived locally as: shyster_censured)
Attorney ID - 40290
Edeiken, Yale F.
Pennsylvania Supreme Court Attorney Inquiry
Attorney ID Case County District
40290 122 DB 95 Lehigh II Public Censure Administered 10/20/98
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BEFORE THE DISCIPLINARY BOARD OF THE
SUPREME COURT OF PENNSYLVANIA

OFFICE OF DISCIPLINARY COUNSEL, : No. 403, Disciplinary Docket No.3
Petitioner :
: No. 122DB1995
v. :
:
Attorney Registration No. 40290 :
Yale F. Edeiken Esq., :
885 COLD SPRING ROAD; APARTMENT 2 :
ALLENTOWN, PA 18103 :
610-435-9820 :
Respondent : Lehigh County

REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE DISCIPLINARY BOARD OF
THE SUPREME COURT OF PENNSYLVANIA

TO THE HONORABLE CHIEF JUSTICE AND JUSTICES
OF THE SUPREME COURT OF PENNSYLVANIA:

Pursuant to Rule 208( d)(2)(iii) of the Pennsylvania Rules of
Disciplinary Enforcement, The Disciplinary Board of the Supreme Court of
Pennsylvania ("Board") herewith submits its findings and recommendations to your
Honorable Court with respect to the above-captioned Petition for Discipline.

I. HISTORY OF PROCEEDINGS

A Petition for Discipline was filed on May 24, 1996 against Respondent,
Yale F. Edeiken, Esquire.

The Petition alleged that Respondent failed to appear for a Private Reprimand
scheduled for December 7, 1995. The Petition charged Respondent with violation
ofPa.R.D.E. 203(b)(2), as well as Rules of Professional Conduct 8.4(d), 1.1 ,
1.3, 1.15(b), and 1.16(d).

A hearing was held on January 9, 1997, before Hearing Committee [ ]
comprised of Chair [ ], Esquire, and Member [ ], Esquire. Respondent was
represented at the hearing by [ ], Esquire. Petitioner was represented by [ ],
Esquire. The Committee filed a Report on September 22, 1997 and recommended a
public censure. No exceptions were filed by the parties.

This matter was adjudicated by the Disciplinary Board at the meeting held on
November 14, 1997.

II. FINDINGS OF FACT

The Board makes the following findings of fact:

1. Petitioner, whose principal office is now located at Suite 3710, One
Oxford Centre, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, is invested, pursuant to Rule 207 of
the Pennsylvania Rules of Disciplinary Enforcement (hereafter Pa.R.D.E.), with
the power and the duty to investigate all matters involving alleged misconduct
of an attorney admitted to practice law in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and
to prosecute all disciplinary proceedings brought in accordance with the various
provisions of the aforesaid Rules.

2. Respondent was admitted to practice law in the Commonwealth of
Pennsylvania on March 29, 1984.

3. In accordance with Rule 208(a)(5), Pa.R.D.E., it was determined that
Respondent should receive a Private Reprimand with condition as a result of
misconduct arising from his representation of [A] by his grandmother and legal
guardian, .

4. By notice dated August 28, 1995, the Secretary of the Disciplinary
Board notified Respondent that a three member panel of the Board had determined
that Respondent should receive a Private Reprimand with condition.

5. The Notice of August 28, 1995, also informed Respondent that he had
the option of attending the Private Reprimand or notifying the Secretary, in
writing, within twenty days of the date of the Notice, that Respondent wished
the matter to be referred for institution of formal proceedings.

6. The Notice included a copy of the Board's Order directing the Private
Reprimand with the following condition:

At least ten days prior to the scheduled private reprimand,
Respondent shall submit proof that he has:

1. Delivered to each and every document relating to his
representation of or her grandson.

2. Provided to the name of his professional malpractice carrier
and policy number, if any.

3. Costs, if any, are to be paid by Respondent.

7. Respondent did not demand that formal proceedings be instituted
against him.

8. As a result of Respondent's failure to demand formal proceedings,
Respondent is deemed to have conclusively violated Rules of Professional Conduct
1.1, 1.3, 1.15(b), and 1. 16(d), as set forth in the Notice of August 28, 1995.

9. By Notice dated November 3, 1995, Respondent was directed to appear
before the Board on December 7, 1995 to receive a Private Reprimand.

10. Respondent received the Board's Notice, which was sent by regular
and certified mail, return receipt requested, to Respondent's office address.

11. Respondent knew he was to appear on December 7, 1995 to receive a
Private Reprimand.

12. Respondent failed to appear and failed to provide proof of his
compliance with the condition.

13. By letter of December 11, 1995, Respondent was directed by James J.
Powell, then Board Chair, to provide good cause for his failure to appear and
noncompliance with the condition.

14. Respondent received the letter, which was sent regular and certified
mail, return receipt requested, to Respondent's address.

15. Respondent was to reply to Board Chair Powell's letter on or before
December 29, 1995.

16. As of the date of the filing of the Petition for Discipline in this
matter, Respondent has not replied to the December 11, 1995 letter.

17. At the disciplinary hearing, Respondent made a statement of remorse
for his actions and testified that he did not show the respect that was owed to
the profession. (N.T. 11)

18. Respondent received an Informal Admonition in 1995 and a Private
Reprimand in 1993.

III. CONCLUSIONS OF LAW

By his actions as set forth above, Respondent violated the following Rule
of Disciplinary Enforcement and Rules of Professional Conduct:

1. Pa.R.D.E. 203(b)(2) - willful failure to appear before the Board for a
Private Reprimand is grounds for discipline.

2. RPC 8.4{ d) - It is professional misconduct for a lawyer to engage in
conduct that is prejudicial to the administration of justice.

3. RPC 1.1 - A lawyer shall provide competent representation to a client.

4. RPC 1.3 - A lawyer shall act with reasonable diligence and promptness
in representing a client.

5. RPC I.I5(b) - A lawyer shall promptly deliver to the client or third
person any funds or other property the client or third person is entitled to
receive. Upon request from the client or third person, the lawyer shall promptly
render a full accounting.

6. RPC 1.16( d) - Upon termination of representation, a lawyer shall take
steps to the extent reasonable to protect the client's interests, such as
surrendering papers and property to which the client is entitled and refunding
advance payment of fees that has not been earned.

IV. DISCUSSION

This matter is before the Board upon a Petition for Discipline charging
Respondent with violation of Rule 203(b )(2), Pa.R.D.E., because of his failure
to appear for a Private Reprimand. The Petition also alleged violations of Rules
of Professional Conduct based on Respondent's misconduct during the course of
representation of a client, which misconduct led to the original determination
of a Private Reprimand. Respondent stipulated to his failure to appear and the,
underlying misconduct. The issue before the Board is the extent of discipline
warranted by Respondent's misconduct.

Respondent was hired by in 1990 to represent her grandson, [A], with
regard to claims of abuse while in foster care. Respondent never filed an action
of any kind for over two years. In 1992 Respondent was contacted by Attorney
[C], who requested Respondent to turn over the [A] file to him. Respondent
agreed to do this but never returned the file. [C] attempted to contact
Respondent, but he could not be reached although many attempts were made.
filed a complaint against Respondent with the Office of Disciplinary Counsel.
Petitioner recommended a Private Reprimand. A three member panel of the
Board determined that a Private Reprimand with condition was appropriate.
Respondent was notified of this determination by Notice of August 25, 1995.
Respondent was advised that he could request formal proceedings if he did not
want to receive the Private Reprimand. Respondent did not request formal
proceedings. By Notice of November 3, 1995, Respondent was notified that the
date of the Private Reprimand was December 7, 1995. Respondent failed to appear
nor did he provide any explanation for his absence.

Respondent's failure to appear before the Board for a Private Reprimand
constitutes an infraction of the Rules of Disciplinary Enforcement and warrants
discipline. Although the underlying misconduct was not egregious, Respondent
further entangled himself in the disciplinary system by avoiding his Private
Reprimand. Respondent admits that his actions were arrogant and arose out of his
belief that the Board was wrong. Respondent further admits that he did not show
the respect that was due to the Board and the profession. Respondent testified
that he appreciates that his failure to appear was a dereliction of his duty as
an attorney.

The facts of this case demonstrate to the Board that public discipline is
appropriate.

Previous cases recognized the necessity for public discipline in
situations such as the instant matter.

In the cases of In re Anonymous No. 67 DB 87,9 Pa. D. & C. 4th 479
(1991) and In re Anonymous No.3 DB 85, 41 Pa. D. & C. 3d 70 (1986), the
attorneys failed to appear for a private reprimands.

Neither attorney had a feasible explanation for the failure to appear
and received a public censure.

Public discipline emphasizes to the attorney that the rules governing
the legal profession may not be trivialized through avoidance of a sanction. The
Board recommends a public censure.

V. RECOMMENDATION

The Disciplinary Board of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania recommends
that the Respondent, Yale F. Edeiken, Esquire receive a public censure from the
Supreme Court of Pennsylvania.

It is further recommended that the expenses incurred in the
investigation and prosecution of this matter are to be paid by the Respondent.

Respectfully submitted,
THE DISCIPLINARY BOARD OF THE
SUPREME COURT OF PENNSYLVANIA

By:__________________________
Thomas J. Elliott, Member
Date: February 26, 1998

Board Members Saltz, Nix and Carson recused themselves.

­
PER CURIAM:

AND NOW, this 20th day of April, 1998, upon consideration of the Report and
Recommendations of the Disciplinary Board dated February 26, 1998, it is hereby
ORDERED that Yale F. Edeiken, Esquire be subjected to a PUBLIC CENSURE by the
Supreme Court.
It is further ORDERED that Respondent shall pay costs to the Disciplinary
Board pursuant to Rule 208(g), Pa.R.D.E.

--end of 122DB1995.PDF--

The Disciplinary Board of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania plainly ruled: "AND
NOW, this 20th day of April, 1998, upon consideration of the Report and
Recommendations of the Disciplinary Board dated February 26, 1998, it is hereby
ORDERED that Yale F. Edeiken, Esquire be subjected to a PUBLIC CENSURE by the
Supreme Court." YET Yale "Fatboy Edeiken has claimed AFTER the date of his
PUBLIC CENSURE: "I have never been charged with any unethical activity relating
to the practice of law..."

Did anyone count all of the "Rules of Professional Conduct" or ethics documented
above Yale F. Edeiken violated?

Yale F. Edeiken's current status:

Yale F. Edeiken is now "INACTIVE." Here is what the Pennsylvania State Supreme
Court Attorney Registration shows:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/office_of_sec.html
"The Office of the Secretary serves as the Controller, Personnel/Administrative
Office, Attorney Registration Office, Prothonotary and Secretary of the Board,
and is Liaison between the Supreme Court, the Board, the Hearing Committees, and
the Office of Disciplinary Counsel." At the web page you are given these links:
Pennsylvania Attorneys:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/pa_attorney.html
Disciplined Attorneys:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/discipli ... rneys.html
Click that top link and enter in Yale's Supreme Court ID: 40290 and you will
get:
Attorney Inquiry
ID Last First Middle City Status
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
40290 Edeiken Yale F. Allentown INACTIVE Discipline
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attsearc ... mit=Submit
(Archived locally as: TubbyIsINACTIVE)
Click "Discipline" <http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attdiscdc.php?id=40290> and
you will get:
Attorney ID - 40290
Edeiken, Yale F.
Case County District Censured ... Comment
122 DB 95 Lehigh II 04/20/1998 Administered 10/20/98
(Archived locally as: shyster_censured)

Yale tried to act like he was associated with Paul Trainor and Todd Miller and
they both show "ACTIVE" and no "Discipline" shows up when links are queried!

ID Last First Middle City Status
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
21242 Miller Todd Stuart Allentown ACTIVE Discipline
16025 Trainor Charles W. Philadelphia ACTIVE Discipline
87125 Trainor Maria V. Pittsburgh ACTIVE Discipline
35627 Trainor Paul E. Allentown ACTIVE Discipline

Proof Yale F. Edeiken Esq. of Allentown, Pennsylvania- Supreme Court
ID# 40290 has falsely asserted he was associated with the two law firms
mentioned below-- Todd Miller & Associates and Trainor Law Offices. Both law
firms told me first hand that Yale F. Edeiken was never an attorney at their
firms!! That is fact! (Archived locally as: YaleTheNut)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revi ... 4b047e1e68
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Subject: Re: The Common Thread To All These Cancel Announcements...
Message-ID: <SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:06:26 GMT

Defendant Bradshit <rdoc_tavish@my-deja.cpm, tavish58@ix.netcom,com> wrote
in message news:7lp1otkrsh37k7ioip5nbd61u0j3nr47fn@4ax.com...

[...]

> Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller and Paul Trainor distanced
> themselves from you

Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.

~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~

And let us not forget Yale F. Edeiken in fact was charged and convicted for
assaulting a female deputy sheriff right in his own county courthouse!

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt ... 34d1b20618
(Archived locally as: JMverifies)
Subject: John Morris Confirms Authenticity of: LEHIGH DEPUTY SAYS LAWYER
HARASSED HER IN SHOVING INCIDENT
Date: 2000/04/06
Message-ID: <8cgk8...@news1.newsguy.com>
References: <26b33bde...@usw-ex0101-005.remarq.com>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt ... d32ed53c98
(Archived locally as: 26b33bde)
<7remes8f7fgvc8lq08r8is25kvu1mmc9cf@4ax.com>
<1f6neso4j4ujdp6q7o7q9a89bjqbu55t91@4ax.com>

From: John Morris <John.Morris@UAlberta.CA>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: LEHIGH DEPUTY SAYS LAWYER HARASSED HER IN SHOVING INCIDENT
Organization: University of Alberta
Reply-To: John.Morris@UAlberta.CA
Message-ID: <1f6neso4j4ujdp6q7o7q9a89bjqbu55t91@4ax.com>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt ... 69ab86bf2e
(Archived locally as: JohnConfirmsShoving_1 and JohnConfirmsShoving_2)

> In <7remes8f7fgvc8lq08r8is25kvu1mmc9cf@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
> on Wed, 05 Apr 2000 09:17:26 -0400, RiP <Ri...@up.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
:.
> >First it was Ragland who made the 'funny papers' as a criminal and
> >now Yale!
:.
> Now? There's one little part "Brimstone" forgot to include, the date
> of the article:
>
> Date: Wednesday, September 19, 1990
> Page: B02
> Edition: FIFTH
> Section: LOCAL/REGION

Thanks for verifying the authenticity of the article John. Doesn't matter
to me the date it occurred. It establishes that Edeiken gives in to fits
of rage and that is good enough for me as well as any trial held against him.
His history is admissible evidence too you should know!

Lurkers here is the article:

(FREE Preview: http://tinyurl.com/35rhv active May 28, 2004)

LEHIGH DEPUTY SAYS LAWYER HARASSED HER IN SHOVING INCIDENT

by VALERIE HILDEBEITEL, The Morning Call

A Lehigh County deputy sheriff has filed harassment charges
against an Allentown attorney over a courthouse confrontation
that happened last month, Sheriff Ron Neimeyer has confirmed.

The charges against attorney Yale F. Edeiken were filed in the
district attorney's office Wednesday, according to the deputy
involved.

Deputy Brenda Hartman said Edeiken shoved her as she was taking
a female prisoner from a courtroom to a holding cell to await
probation processing on the afternoon of June 12.

Hartman said she took the prisoner into an elevator and Edeiken
and another man followed.

The deputy said Edeiken confronted the man, who was later
identified as the woman's ex-husband, and she ordered both to
stop and that one man leave the elevator.

The ex-husband complied and as he exited, Hartman said, Edeiken
shoved her to the back of the elevator and swung his briefcase
at the man.

Sheriff Neimeyer said the deputy reported the incident to him,
and he sent her to the district attorney's office.

"It certainly was conduct that is not expected," Neimeyer said
Friday. "We're on the same side. My officers are officers of the
court, as is Mr. Edeiken.

"We won't brook that type of conduct from anyone else," the
sheriff said. "Why should we (take it) from him?"

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Care to verify that this article is authentic as well John?

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Date: Wednesday, September 19, 1990
Page: B02
Edition: FIFTH
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Corrections:

Memo:

CITY ATTORNEY FOUND GUILTY IN ELEVATOR CONFRONTATION
by KRISTIN CASLER, The Morning Call

Allentown attorney Yale F. Edeiken was found guilty and fined $600 plus
costs for a confrontation with a Lehigh County deputy sheriff and another
man in a courthouse elevator.

During the June 12 incident, Edeiken struck Deputy Brenda Hartman with his
briefcase and allegedly threatened the man by saying he had a gun,
according to District Justice Diane Jepsen, who heard the case. Edeiken
later was found to have a permit for and was carrying a .357 Magnum.

Jepsen ordered Edeiken, whose office is at 39 N. 5th St., to pay the fine
after a hearing Monday on charges of harassment and disorderly conduct
filed by Hartman. Jepsen said Edeiken no longer has a permit for his gun.

According to the complaint, Hartman was in the courthouse side elevator,
which usually is reserved for prisoner transport, with Joanne Keller.
Keller, who was not handcuffed, had just been sentenced and Hartman was
taking her to pay fines and costs before her release.

Also on the elevator were Edeiken, David Raymond, public defender Earl
Supplee and county courier Bill Bichel.

Edeiken told Jepsen that Raymond, a convicted felon who had burglarized
him, pushed his way onto the elevator.

But Jepsen said other witnesses testified that Raymond already was on the
elevator when Edeiken boarded and started a shoving match. Witnesses
varied on what was said.

Witnesses said Edeiken called Hartman a whore, but Edeiken said he was
referring to Keller.

Raymond is a friend of Keller, and Keller once resided at a house owned by
Edeiken. Edeiken was at the courthouse as a character witness for Keller
at her sentencing.

Edeiken swung his briefcase at Raymond, striking him and Hartman,
according to testimony.

Hartman opened the elevator doors on the third floor and ordered Edeiken
to get out. He refused, and as Raymond attempted to exit, Edeiken told
Raymond he had a gun and moved as if he was going to draw it. No weapon
was seen.

Raymond and Supplee then went downstairs for help, and Hartman took
Edeiken and Keller to the bullpen where prisoners are held pending their
proceedings, Jepsen said. Hartman told them to stay until she got help.
When she returned, Edeiken was gone.

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For a fact almost every e-mail I receive from Edeiken is something Sara FWDs
him. Care to deny it Sara? Care to deny I caught you in a lie!? You simply are
not happy unless you're agitating and NO I will NOT retract this post nor make
an apology about what an Allentown newspaper reported as a news event. Its true
and it happened- care to deny that Yale shoved people around in Lehigh County
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https://www.avvo.com/attorneys/18103-pa ... 32850.html
Yale F. Edeiken

This lawyer was disciplined by a state licensing authority in 1998.

This lawyer was disciplined by a state licensing authority.

Censure issued in PA, 1998

updated on Mar 27, 2011

Censure means the attorney did something wrong but may still practice law. The State censures the lawyer in hopes that he or she will not repeat the behavior. Details of the infraction are made part of the public record.
He passed away years ago.
https://www.facebook.com/23729088966326 ... 389714412/
Mazal Holocaust Library, Inc.
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R.I.P Yale. He was an integral part of of the Holocaust History Project. We are sorry we didn't know earlier about his passing. Our heartfelt condolences to his family and friends. Yale and Harry are watching over us together.
http://www.tributes.com/show/Yale-F.-Edeiken-88719701

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Thanks for the recommendation, FPG. I like his article analyzing Bobby Fisher's comments on Japanese radio about 9/11.
3. Fischer stated that White people came to America and robbed the land from the American Indians. He also stated that Black slaves were brought from Africa to work the land. Fischer also said that the American Indians “kept the land pristine. It was a beautiful country when the white man came” and that the White and Black people should leave the United States and the land should be returned to the American Indians.

Fischer did not acknowledge that Caucasians were in North America as far back as 13,000 years ago. Arthur Kemp documents in March Of The Titans that archaeologists have found numerous remains in various parts of America including the 9000-year-old Spirit Cave Mummy in Nevada which has clear Caucasian features including reddish hair, unlike Amerinds. The 7000BC Kenwick Man skull found in Washington State indicates he was white and part of a larger white tribe. There are also numerous megalith sites with early European scripts similar to Stonehenge and other signs of European-centric civilization and technology, including iron works and smelting.

Fischer’s comments did not acknowledge White slavery was a far more extensive operation than Black enslavement. Nor that the first official slave owner in colonial America was a Black man, further blacks disproportionately became slave masters in pre-Civil War America. Also unacknowledged, was that a legal precedent for life-long slavery in America was established by a Black slave owner with regard to one of his Black slaves. American Indians also historically practiced slavery and later, like Blacks came to own White slaves. In Virginia in 1670 Blacks and Indians were barred from owning White slaves due to their excessive cruelty. See: Ironbark Resources

Fischer incorrectly assumes American Indians did not practice significant tribal warfare over territory and hunting grounds and were perfectly harmonious with nature. In reality their hunting behaviors were often cruel, wasteful and undertaken for sport and consistent with their treatment of captured White women as Thomas Goodrich documents. See: http://thomasgoodrich.com/

Fischer also said that the White and Black people should leave the United States and the land should be returned to the American Indians. Fischer’s solution is not practical. We cannot force over 300 million Americans to leave the United States simply because American Indians were mistreated in the past.

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Werd wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:15 pm
R.I.P Yale. He was an integral part of of the Holocaust History Project. We are sorry we didn't know earlier about his passing. Our heartfelt condolences to his family and friends. Yale and Harry are watching over us together.
http://www.tributes.com/show/Yale-F.-Edeiken-88719701
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There's a curious comment left on his condolences page at tribute.com:
If the Edeiken family members get this message... It has been over two years. I have tried leaving messages with the numbers I have. My mother WENDY has been abandoned by you. She was with Yale for many years. She is still your family! Still has the same phone number. He was my step father. Please get in touch with me. Erika Cook 114 Beckert Street, Pittsburgh , PA 15209
I wonder if Edeiken's widow is gentile and his Jewish family wants nothing to do with her for that reason.

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Daniel wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:37 pm
If the Edeiken family members get this message... It has been over two years. I have tried leaving messages with the numbers I have. My mother WENDY has been abandoned by you. She was with Yale for many years. She is still your family! Still has the same phone number. He was my step father. Please get in touch with me. Erika Cook 114 Beckert Street, Pittsburgh , PA 15209
Oh wow. So his second marriage was to a niddah goyim who had a daughter already. I bet his family wasn't happy having shiksa inlaws.
Some gentiles aren't the only ones who don't want their kids mixing with Jews. Sometimes it's the opposite as well.


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Turnagain wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:43 pm
An excellent and very useful site, Mr. Berg. Its effectiveness is shown by the desperate attempts to debunk Wear. The "WearsWarts" site is good for a giggle with its failed attempts to mitigate the lies of the Treblinka witnesses with claims of "hyperbole" and "literary (license)." Just the sort of bottom rung excuses employed by Dabbing.


What's bottom-rung is John Wear's 'website.' Sure, some may have used hyperbole and exaggeration, but the vast, vast majority of their claims should be accurate. You can't expect to tell me that EVERY witness was in on a secret plan to deliberately smear the Germans!
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Werd wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:40 pm
MADELEINE ALBRIGHT: The sanctions against Iraq were put on because Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. But there never were sanctions against food and medicine. And you people need to know there never were sanctions against food and medicine, and I was responsible for getting food in there and getting Saddam Hussein to pump oil.
Is she sure about that?
Osama bin Laden cited the deaths of 600,000 Iraqi children in a fatwa declaring war against the U.S. "More than 600,000 Iraqi children have died due to lack of food and medicine and as a result of the unjustifiable aggression (sanction) imposed on Iraq and its nation," he said. "The children of Iraq are our children. You, the USA, together with the Saudi regime are responsible for the shedding of the blood of these innocent children."
Let's try a new york times article from 1995.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children, U.N. Reports
By BARBARA CROSSETTEDEC. 1, 1995

[...]

As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.

The study also found steeply rising malnutrition among the young, suggesting that more children will be at risk in the coming years. The results of the survey will appear on Friday in The Lancet, the journal of the British Medical Association.

I had a sense that the situation had gotten worse, but I didn't think that there would be such a dramatic difference," said Mary Smith Fawzi, a researcher at the Harvard University School of Public Health, who conducted the survey for the Food and Agriculture Organization. The co-author is Sarah Zaidi, science director of the Center for Social and Economic Rights in New York.

Dr. Fawzi, who surveyed 2,120 children under 10 years of age in 25 neighborhoods in Baghdad in August, said 28 percent were stunted in growth, up from 12 percent in 1991.

In 1991, she said in an interview, rates of malnutrition in Iraq were similar to those in Kuwait. In the paper for The Lancet, she says Iraq has now sunk to the levels of poor developing countries, with underweight rates among children comparable to those in Ghana or Mali.
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The percentage of Iraqi children affected by "wasting," or emaciation requiring urgent attention, rose to 12 percent in 1995, from 3 percent in 1991, Dr. Fawzi reported, adding that these figures are extraordinarily high, similar to those found in Malagasy and Myanmar.

Several United Nations agencies, including F.A.O. and Unicef, have expressed concern about the damage being done to Iraqis, especially children, by United Nations economic sanctions. Two years ago, F.A.O. warned that Iraq risked widespread starvation.

The Security Council responded to these concerns earlier this year when it offer Iraq the opportunity to sell $2 billion worth of oil to purchase food and medicines under United Nations supervision, the second such offer in four years. Iraq rejected both as infringements of its sovereignty and has continued to demand an unconditional end to sanctions.

[...]
How about this one?
https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian ... 7.weekend9
Squeezed to death
Half a million children have died in Iraq since UN sanctions were imposed - most enthusiastically by Britain and the US. Three UN officials have resigned in despair. Meanwhile, bombing of Iraq continues almost daily. John Pilger investigates

Sat 4 Mar 2000 01.37 GMT
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Wherever you go in Iraq's southern city of Basra, there is dust. It gets in your eyes and nose and throat. It swirls in school playgrounds and consumes children kicking a plastic ball. "It carries death," said Dr Jawad Al-Ali, a cancer specialist and member of Britain's Royal College of Physicians. "Our own studies indicate that more than 40 per cent of the population in this area will get cancer: in five years' time to begin with, then long afterwards. Most of my own family now have cancer, and we have no history of the disease. It has spread to the medical staff of this hospital. We don't know the precise source of the contamination, because we are not allowed to get the equipment to conduct a proper scientific survey, or even to test the excess level of radiation in our bodies. We suspect depleted uranium, which was used by the Americans and British in the Gulf War right across the southern battlefields."
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Under economic sanctions imposed by the United Nations Security Council almost 10 years ago, Iraq is denied equipment and expertise to clean up its contaminated battle-fields, as Kuwait was cleaned up. At the same time, the Sanctions Committee in New York, dominated by the Americans and British, has blocked or delayed a range of vital equipment, chemotherapy drugs and even pain-killers. "For us doctors," said Dr Al-Ali, "it is like torture. We see children die from the kind of cancers from which, given the right treatment, there is a good recovery rate." Three children died while I was there.

Six other children died not far away on January 25, last year. An American missile hit Al Jumohria, a street in a poor residential area. Sixty-three people were injured, a number of them badly burned. "Collateral damage," said the Department of Defence in Washington. Britain and the United States are still bombing Iraq almost every day: it is the longest Anglo-American bombing campaign since the second world war, yet, with honourable exceptions, very little appears about it in the British media. Conducted under the cover of "no fly zones", which have no basis in international law, the aircraft, according to Tony Blair, are "performing vital humanitarian tasks". The ministry of defence in London has a line about "taking robust action to protect pilots" from Iraqi attacks - yet an internal UN Security Sector report says that, in one five-month period, 41 per cent of the victims were civilians in civilian targets: villages, fishing jetties, farmland and vast, treeless valleys where sheep graze. A shepherd, his father, his four children and his sheep were killed by a British or American aircraft, which made two passes at them. I stood in the cemetery where the children are buried and their mother shouted, "I want to speak to the pilot who did this."
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This is a war against the children of Iraq on two fronts: bombing, which in the last year cost the British taxpayer £60 million. And the most ruthless embargo in modern history. According to Unicef, the United Nations Children's Fund, the death rate of children under five is more than 4,000 a month - that is 4,000 more than would have died before sanctions. That is half a million children dead in eight years. If this statistic is difficult to grasp, consider, on the day you read this, up to 200 Iraqi children may die needlessly. "Even if not all the suffering in Iraq can be imputed to external factors," says Unicef, "the Iraqi people would not be undergoing such deprivation in the absence of the prolonged measures imposed by the Security Council and the effects of war."

Through the glass doors of the Unicef offices in Baghdad, you can read the following mission statement: "Above all, survival, hope, development, respect, dignity, equality and justice for women and children." A black sense of irony will be useful if you are a young Iraqi. As it is, the children hawking in the street outside, with their pencil limbs and eyes too big for their long thin faces, cannot read English, and perhaps cannot read at all.

"The change in 10 years is unparalleled, in my experience," Anupama Rao Singh, Unicef's senior representative in Iraq, told me. "In 1989, the literacy rate was 95%; and 93% of the population had free access to modern health facilities. Parents were fined for failing to send their children to school. The phenomenon of street children or children begging was unheard of. Iraq had reached a stage where the basic indicators we use to measure the overall well-being of human beings, including children, were some of the best in the world. Now it is among the bottom 20%. In 10 years, child mortality has gone from one of the lowest in the world, to the highest."

Anupama Rao Singh, originally a teacher in India, has spent most of her working life with Unicef. Helping children is her vocation, but now, in charge of a humanitarian programme that can never succeed, she says, "I am grieving." She took me to a typical primary school in Saddam City, where Baghdad's poorest live. We approached along a flooded street: the city's drainage and water distribution system have collapsed. The head, Ali Hassoon, wore the melancholia that marks Iraqi teachers and doctors and other carers: those who know they can do little "until you, in the outside world, decide". Guiding us around the puddles of raw sewage in the playground, he pointed to the high water mark on a wall. "In the winter it comes up to here. That's when we evacuate. We stay as long as possible, but without desks, the children have to sit on bricks. I am worried about the buildings coming down."

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She's another neo con Zionist Jew who loves Israel more than America. She also wants to do away with Syria. Even though Syria is fighting Al-Qeada and ISIS.
https://justice4poland.com/2016/12/06/f ... -in-syria/

That's because Israel, America, CIA, and other Jewish crime networks gain financial benefit by funding Al Qeada and ISIS.
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These ISIS/ISIL was created by Saudi, the USI, and IsraHell. These animal fighters are the tools used by their masters to sow discords among Arabs in the ME.The corrupt Saudi government must be overthrown.
This guy knows his shit. People should pick up the following book (as well as others) by Wayne Madsen.

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This book, for the first time, suggests that both Israel and Saudi Arabia were intimately involved in planning and carrying out the 9/11 attack on the United States. Both countries, while seemingly enemies, have been longtime secret allies. They share a number of common enemies, including Iran, Shi'a Islam, pan-Arab nationalism, Hezbollah, and the Muslim Brotherhood. Their intelligence chiefs often meet and conspire in utmost secrecy. The Saudis and Israelis had the motive and the means to cooperate in launching a "false flag" terrorist attack on the United States in order to plunge America into endless conflicts to bolster the positions of Israel and Saudi Arabia. This book tells that story.
When corrupt Americans and Israelis want to make money by funding more radical Islamic psychos in the world and forcing other innocent countries that have no real problem with America (like Syria) to do battle with them, that's just fine. If I'm against government corruption and the spread of militant Islam because of how it kills men women and children, that apparently makes me a racist or a bigot according to DabblingIsSoMuchFun. :roll:

...WHAT???



SHE JUST ACKNOWLEDGED THAT SANCTIONS CAUSED THE DEATHS OF 500 000 PEOPLE IN IRAQ!


SHE APOLOGIZED FOR EVEN MENTIONING (With a caveat) THAT THEIR DEATHS WAS 'WORTH IT.'


You also left out that part of the quote because that's inconvenient history for you.


LIKE, WHAT IS YOUR POINT?



Liar? I think so.



Anyhoo, the thing is she was referring to the broader scale of U.S. Sanctions.


"(c) The sale or supply by their nationals or from their territories or using their flag vessels of any commodities or products, including weapons or any other military equipment, whether or not originating in their territories but not including supplies intended strictly for medical purposes, and, in humanitarian circumstances, foodstuffs, to any person or body in Iraq or Kuwait or to any person or body for the purposes of any business carried on in or operated from Iraq or Kuwait, and any activities by their nationals or in their territories which promote or are calculated to promote such sale or supply of such commodities or products;"


That's straight from the U.N. Security Council Resolution, # 661.


Read here:

http://unscr.com/en/resolutions/661

What a clown!


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Evidence to support that statement? If she's Jewish as you claim and loves Israel more than America, why doesn't she go live there? After all, she would be granted citizenship, and she could run for office. The incohenrency here is absurd.


Indirectly, the U.S. may have funded ISIS, but to imply that the U.S. deliberately wanted ISIS and Al-Qaeda to succeed is just, baffling. The U.S. is currently in the middle of a war fighting ISIS, they took back a lot of territory but it's still going to take some time to fully rout out the terrorists. Bruh, if you're going to make conspiracies, at least be coherent about them.

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I'm against government corruption and Sharia Law; absolutely and unequivocally. The thing is, bro, that for the latter, I don't view all Muslims as being 'Shariaic.' It's like Christianity: I hate it, but that doesn't mean I hate Christians. The former doesn't mean I have to invent conspiracies about it, either. Syria's problem is that it oppresses its citizens by denying them democracy, or at least some sort of rights. That is, in my opinion, criminal. Like in the case of communism, the war is not against the Syrian people, but against Assad.
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DabbingIsSoMuchFun wrote:
Sure, some may have used hyperbole and exaggeration, but the vast, vast majority of their claims should be accurate.
Really? In that case, trot out some of your claims that should be accurate. Hyperbole and exaggeration my shiny hiny. Those clowns were supposedly describing the premeditated murder of over a million people in just the AR camps. Why would they need "exaggerations" or "hyperbole" to bolster such a horror story? They were lying, Dabbing. Get over it.

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Werd wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:01 am
DabbingIsSoMuchFun wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:42 am
John Wear is a proven liar who's nothing but a Hitler apologist through and through with little regards to objectivity.



Now, this website is great!

https://wearswarts.wordpress.com
https://wearswarts.wordpress.com/2018/1 ... n-boredom/
He cites old American war propaganda lies that there was a gas chamber at Dachau. There wasn't. OOPS!

Here's another piece of trash. Apparently people at I.G. Farben knew their product was being used for gas chambers.
https://wearswarts.wordpress.com/2018/0 ... mes-trial/
Too bad that even Jean Claude Pressac admitted that 95% of the Zyklon B tins that were ever ordered for used for proper delousing and disinfestation. On top of that, Germar Rudolf has once again thoroughly refuted the Birkenau gas chamber nonsense with chemistry.


And finally, the third time is the charm.
https://wearswarts.wordpress.com/2018/0 ... fter-1945/
Of course all sane people are well aware that The Final Solution, a term misused by John Wear, was the organised mass murder of European Jews either by overwork or by physical extermination.
No, it was emigration.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1247

Later he tries a dig at Carlos Porter
https://wearswarts.wordpress.com/2018/0 ... bla-again/
but he does it based on this article.
http://www.phdn.org/archives/holocaust- ... nsic-sins/
“One of his articles “War Crimes Trials” can be found on the CODOH website. It claims to discuss the 1907 Annex to the Hague Convention dealing with the laws of war, and this essay is so highly regarded in the denier community that it has been cited by deniers as authoritative on the subject of the Hague Convention. A close examination of Porter’s work, however, demonstrates that it is inaccurate both as to the text of the Convention and the conclusions that are derived from the distorted citation”
” Porter’s laconic conclusions are dependent on his edited readings of the text and his factual assumptions. Many of Porter’s unsupported allegations are simply not correct. “
“This brief analysis demonstrates that “War Crimes Trials” is replete with deliberate distortions, fraudulent representations of the text of the Conventions, and factual errors. Porter’s work is not only a failure but a rather dismal one. Porter’s technique of misquotation and factual error would not be tolerated in any legitimate academic community or any other setting where factual accuracy is required. It would never survive the process of legitimate peer review. It is only in the shadow world of the lunatic fringe of those who deny the Holocaust where efforts like “War Crimes Trials” find acceptability. And it is only the credulous and those with a specific agenda who can consider “War Crimes Trials” as either convincing or authoritative.”
I guess I will await all the evidence to show that this stuff happened.
https://www.cwporter.com/partone.htm
If Germans gassed millions of Jews, did they also...........

Steam people to death like lobsters in 10 steam chambers at Treblinka
Zap them to death with mass electrical shocks
Blast them into the twilight zone with atomic bombs
Beat people to death, then carry out autopsies to see why they died
Force people to climb trees, then cut the trees down
Kill 840,000 Russian POWs at Sachsenhausen, and burn the bodies in 4 portable ovens
Bash people's brains in with a pedal-driven brain-bashing machine while listening to the radio, then burn the bodies in 4 portable ovens
Torture and execute people in time to music at the Yanov camp in Russia -- shoot every member of the orchestra
Grind the bones of millions of people in portable bone-grinding machines
Grind the bones of 200 bodies [¾ ton] at one time as described in photographs and documents which have disappeared -- study bone grinding in special 10-day crash-course seminars
Whup people with special spanking machines
(Note that photographs of German leaders, concentration camps, etc., are in full supply, but that photos of bone grinders, portable ovens, etc., have all disappeared)
Make lampshades of human skin
Cut people's heads off and then shrink them -- make pocketbooks and driving gloves for SS officers out of human skin
Paint pornographic pictures on canvasses made of human skin
Bind books in human skin
Make saddles, riding breeches, gloves, house slippers, and ladies handbags out of human skin
Drive Jews to cannibalism in all those freight cars
More "scientific experiments" -- another ridiculous accusation -- another bizarre hallucination -- another example of German efficiency
Torture people in specially mass-produced "torture boxes" made by Krupp
Kill people for sleeping in their underwear -- kill people for wearing dirty underwear -- wear underwear stolen from gassed persons -- (didn't they have any underwear in Germany?) -- kill people for having armpit hair -- stuff chairs with human hair -- (an objection from defendant Göring) -- make socks out of human hair -- (actually, the correct translation should be hair-yarn "booties" for U-boat crews) -- (commentary) -- collect seven tons of hair for human sock making -- collect 293 hair bales (net weight seven thousand kilograms) at Auschwitz for mattress stuffing and making hair socks -- gas them to death, then destroy the bodies with quicklime at Auschwitz
Use human ashes for repairing the roads -- mix human ashes with manure and sell it
Burn human bodies using human fat for fuel -- burn human bodies using no fuel at all after removing them from the gas chambers without wearing gas masks -- burn 80,000 bodies in 2 old ovens
Burn human bodies in holes dug in a swampy plain which is frozen in January where it rains and snows constantly and there is mud everywhere -- what did they do when it was raining?
Kill people with poisoned soft drinks -- shoot 135,000 people in Smolensk and bury them Katyn-style -- shoot 200,000 people in the Lisenitz forest -- using the same methods of concealment they used at Katyn
You can go to Porter's website and click each issue to actually see its reproduction in the transcripts.
Will this anti-John Wear blogger and others ever explain why NOT ONE PERSON WHO LIED UNDER OATH AGAINST A GERMAN WAS EVER PUNISHED?
viewtopic.php?p=133624#p133624
You know what else is in that link? MORE EVIDENCE RUDOLF HOESS WAS TORTURED AND HIS FAMILY BEATEN AND THREATENED. Thus, anything Hoess "confessed to" needs to be taken with a whole pound of salt. It needs some type of scientific confirmation.

Funny how not only in his anti Porter article, but also this one, he talks about Nuremberg easily. Where is his article on the IMT trials? Does he not have one? Could this be why?
Article 19.

The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence. It shall adopt and apply to the greatest possible extent expeditious and nontechnical procedure, and shall admit any evidence which it deems to be of probative value.

[...]

Article 21.

The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof. It shall also take judicial notice of official governmental documents and reports of the United Nations, including the acts and documents of the committees set up in the various allied countries for the investigation of war crimes, and of records and findings of military or other Tribunals of any of the United Nations.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp
Whatever the Soviets and Poles claim, it's fact. They don't need to be checked or be ensured to have good support. They say it. That's good enough for us. :lol:
By the way, this jackass who wrote that anti Porter article is named YALE F. EDEIKEN. Porter refutes him in this link.
https://www.cwporter.com/wctrial.htm


There was one, and they hinted at some people being gassed there.


An actual doctor who performed autopsies on the deceased victims said this:


"“The majority died of natural diseases of one kind or the another. However, we did probe into such questions as, ‘What happened to those prisoners who became psychotic at Dachau? What did the Gestapo do with them?’ Well, they took those people to the crematorium. First, however, they were taken to a big windowless building next to the crematorium where the ceiling was covered with false shower heads. The victims were then ordered to strip and take a ‘shower.’ Outside the building, guards dropped in cyanide pellets. Then they’d blow the cyanide gas out and remove the bodies next door to the crematorium ovens. I think this is what happened to most of the truly psychotic prisoners and those they considered unruly and unmanageable and who, in the Gestapo’s opinion, were incorrigibles. But, in my opinion, only relatively few of the inmates I personally examined at Dachau were murdered in this manner. Still, medical facilities were totally inadequate. When people fell hopelessly ill and death was imminent, and when they grew so weak they could no longer work or function, they were taken to the cyanide room for disposal. The Nazi called them ‘mercy killings’ because there was no hope of them getting well. Actually, the Germans considered them a liability, and extermination was the answer.” (
‘CRIME DOCTOR,’ MCCALLUM & LARSON
, p. 61. ISBN 0-916076-20-2; Library of Congress Catalog Number: 78-16403)"


Since John Wear mentioned him, it's only fair game.


Propaganda? Yes, for the truth.

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“But as the candles burned lower and the men lit up their cigars and poured out the brandy, what did they find to talk about? Did they congratulate each other for having survived the Nazi regime and the ordeal of Nuremberg or exchange anecdotes about their time at Landsberg? Did they look back fondly to the days when the business they once ran was a mighty corporate colossus that crushed all commercial opposition, or did they wax optimistic about the great times ahead? Or, now that they were among friends and sage from prying eyes, did they raise a glass to the memory of thousands of starving, beaten, half dead wretches who had once dragged iron girders across an ice bound Polish construction site on their behalf?


We shall never know, of course. But somehow it seems unlikely.”




Not to mention, the IG guys got away relatively speaking with what they did. The sentences were very, very light.


Too bad that 95% still means that 5% isn't used, and that most of that 5% is probably destined to the gassing process. Too bad that this has nothing to do with the topic at hand.


Too bad you fail at arguing.


Too bad you resort to argumentum ad verborum to make your 'points.'


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Too bad you don't understand euphemisms.


SK was a special category altogether. Did it mean those transited? Nein, as there exists a special category for them?


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It's right in front of you, bro.


The answer to most of those questions are: "No, but with a caveat."


Where did the 6 million go?


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As long as they don't accuse a specific individual of something he has never done, it ain't libel.

Hoess was beat up, but that he confirmed the death toll in his memoir, which was written without any physical coercion, shows the veracity of his claims. That he also revised the Auschwitz death toll to 1 million is proof unto itself.


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"Article 19.

The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence. It shall adopt and apply to the greatest possible extent expeditious and nontechnical procedure, and shall admit any evidence which it deems to be of probative value.

[...]

Article 21.

The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof. It shall also take judicial notice of official governmental documents and reports of the United Nations, including the acts and documents of the committees set up in the various allied countries for the investigation of war crimes, and of records and findings of military or other Tribunals of any of the United Nations."



There, I highlighted the parts needed.
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Re: John Wear's excellent website

Post by DabbingIsSoMuchFun » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:06 pm

Turnagain wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:45 pm
DabbingIsSoMuchFun wrote:
Sure, some may have used hyperbole and exaggeration, but the vast, vast majority of their claims should be accurate.
Really? In that case, trot out some of your claims that should be accurate. Hyperbole and exaggeration my shiny hiny. Those clowns were supposedly describing the premeditated murder of over a million people in just the AR camps. Why would they need "exaggerations" or "hyperbole" to bolster such a horror story? They were lying, Dabbing. Get over it.

For starters, that the NS killed Jews for no other reason than their ethnicity is true.


Second, some people may want to add to the shock and horror value by inventing stories, to corroborate the ones with are. For example, if I were to witness rape, I could describe it as a person being raped, but I could also add that the person 'beat the victim with a cane, that I was going to get killed as I witnessed it,' etc.



Thomas Jefferson claimed he learned Spanish in nineteen (19!) days. Does that mean he didn't learn Spanish at all? Falsus in uno =/ Falsus in omnibus.


No way so many people happen to all lie. The overwhelming aspect of their testimonies remains: Mass-murder by the NS.
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