I was a number wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:43 pmYou do appear to be at a loss.DabbingIsSoMuchFun wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:48 am
Odd that Churchill wouldn't mention gas chambers in his memoirs but then mention the murder of 6 to 7 million people in an opening about WW2. An OPENING, not a section, an OPENING. That he considered it to be worthy of mentioning in an opening of a series of Volumes shows that he thought of it significantly. Besides, find me where Churchill mentions Auschwitz in that quote, didn't exist if he didn't.
Even more odd that 'systematised' would refer to mere transportation but then be followed by the murder 6 to 7 million people. Gee, was Churchill schizophrenic or what?
I mean, if Churchill was a parrot, then what did he parrot?
Like, what is even your point?
I'm at a genuine loss.
It's very odd there's no mention of gas chambers (still a very valid point despite your avoidance). After all, gas chambers certainly seemed worthy of mention from every other proponent in every discussion about WWII since then and even until this day. Plus, we have to consider most of the people involved in these discussions understand it's the lack of mention of gas chambers and not a lack of mention of the Holocaust which you improperly used in your topic title.
Equally amusing is the request to find a mention of Auschwitz in that specific quote when no specific areas were mentioned at all. Last time I checked, no one was denying the existence or use of the actual location of Auschwitz.
"Systematised" is also a vague term. It's just another word for logistics, but "systematised" certainly has a nice ring of shock to it, especially after "wholesale massacre." The kind of shock a country's leader would be expected to show after leading his countrymen through a war. Schizophrenic? Perhaps, but I would say he was more trained and perched in front of a proverbial audience.
In conclusion, "what is my point?" has remained the same despite your attempts to minimalize it.
No mention of gas chambers.
I never avoided your point about gas chambers.
I, in fact, addressed it like this:
"Odd that Churchill wouldn't mention gas chambers in his memoirs but then mention the murder of 6 to 7 million people in an opening about WW2. An OPENING, not a section, an OPENING. That he considered it to be worthy of mentioning in an opening of a series of Volumes shows that he thought of it significantly. Besides, find me where Churchill mentions Auschwitz in that quote, didn't exist if he didn't. "
That Churchill didn't mention the murder weapon (in some cases) is irrelevant; the Holocaust wasn't exclusively perpetrated by Gas Chambers. Some 2.5 million Jews or so were shot by the Einsatzy. It means jack all that he didn't mention it, or are we to believe that not mentioning how the Armenians were killed from 1915 to 1917 constitutes some sort of denial, or that when the ADL blasted Trump for not mentioning 6 million in particular (Jews), they denied the Holocaust as they didn't say that they were killed by gas chambers???
The lack of mention of gas chambers is irrelevant considering that these are memoirs, although you could consider them historical works unto themselves.
That Churchill mentioned a massacre of 6 to 7 million men, women and children in the opening of these memoirs, proves that he thought them worthy of mentioning.
Auschwitz was referring to your apparent point, that if Churchill didn't mention it, it didn't happen. Auschwitz didn't happen guys, it was an inside job. See how fallacious this logic is? Churchill wasn't an Holocaust historian, he never said he was one. That 6 or 7 million people died is enough, nevermind the logistics, murder weapons, etc. Are you attempting to frame Churchill as a Holocaust denier or revisionist?
Systematised refers to this:
"The wholesale massacre by systematised processes of six or seven millions of men, women and children in the German execution camps exceeds in horror the rough-and-ready butcheries of Genghis Khan, and in scale
Move on, move on...
 “@Whitehouse statement on #HolocaustMemorialDay, misses that it was six million Jews who perished, not just 'innocent people',”
TFW the ADL denies the Holocaust.