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More "Magically Disappearing jew" Nonsense

Post by Nisco » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:25 pm

By Carolyn Yeager
IF A SINGLE BODY WERE FISHED OUT OF THE DANUBE RIVER that could be shown by DNA testing to be that of a Jew from 1944, it would appear in big headlines all over the world: “Victim of Nazi Holocaust massacre discovered!”

But when an official search is undertaken by Israeli authorities and finds nothing, it is ignored by most media outlets, or made into a brief news item quickly forgotten.


This is the case with the joint effort to recover the remains of victims that were allegedly shot into the River Danube in Central Budapest at the time Hungarian Jews were being deported to Auschwitz.
Israel's ZAKA Search and Rescue conducted the search with the cooperation of the Hungarian government. Divers used a sonar device that can descend to a depth of 150 meters and scan within 130 meters, identifying objects.

Yet nothing was found. Zero.

They intend to repeat the search one more time. But Mazsihisz, a federation of Jewish communities in Hungary, has asked the Hungarian and Israeli governments to drop their efforts, calling the search “pointless” and “disturbing.” What it actually is is embarrassing!

Mazsihisz put out the unconfirmed, unproven statement noting that while “thousands of [Jewish] people had been shot into the river,” many others [non-Jews] may be resting in the river also. “Their bones have probably been scattered … some washed away as far as the Black Sea.” They added the usual objection when they know nothing will be found: “Disturbing the resting site of the dead is a complicated and sensitive issue.” And “It would disturb the peace of the dead, whether Jewish or not, and would also violate the halakha [Jewish religious laws].”

What is the source of this unfounded myth?

Where did the story of the twenty thousand murdered Danube Jews come from? In 1944-45 accusations against the Germans were flying everywhere without regard for any basis in truth. Jews and Polish Resistance forces were building up a case to take to the post-war peace talks that they knew would take place. This was just another of the many unverified claims that were touted by the newspapers on the Allied side, and of which reports were written and signed.

There has never been any evidence for this story, but those who nevertheless push it shamelessly copied the thousands of shoes displayed at the Auschwitz Museum as magical 'proof' that all the wearers of those shoes were put to death in gas chambers—by placing old shoes along the bank of the Danube in 2005 and calling it a memorial to those 20,000 who were told "to step out of their shoes before being shot.” How nice that they so willingly complied and that this tourist attraction was able to be created 61 years later!

In 2011 human remains were discovered during construction work on a bridge overlooking the Danube and DNA tests found that 9 of 15 'samples' [not bodies] were from Ashkenazi Jews. This gave Chabad-affiliated Orthodox Jews in Hungary, like activist Slomo Koves (friend of Elie Wiesel), hope that some proof could be found for the old myth of the 20,000 murdered Danube Jews. This myth is currently at the heart of an ongoing, polarizing debate in Hungary about how government should address the issue of WWII complicity.

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Post by Nisco » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:32 pm

I can't wait to see DabbingIsSoMuchFun try to explain how these "missing jews" magically disappeared because they were "incinerated" under water by mermaids!

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Post by DabbingIsSoMuchFun » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:45 pm

Nisco wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:32 pm
I can't wait to see DabbingIsSoMuchFun try to explain how these "missing jews" magically disappeared because they were "incinerated" under water by mermaids!

:lol:

Um, no, they were incinerated/burned like this:


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Post by Huntinger » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:28 pm

This same photo has been posted like close to 100 times now. Could you kindly post something different before it becomes imprinted on the computer screen. Thank you.
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Post by DabbingIsSoMuchFun » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:13 pm

Huntinger wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:28 pm
This same photo has been posted like close to 100 times now. Could you kindly post something different before it becomes imprinted on the computer screen. Thank you.

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Post by Turnagain » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:57 pm

Care to explain the "spaghetti women" who were so crudely drawn into that photo, Dabbing?

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Post by DabbingIsSoMuchFun » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:12 pm

Turnagain wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:57 pm
Care to explain the "spaghetti women" who were so crudely drawn into that photo, Dabbing?

They are, um, dead. You can be liberal with their corpses. How do you know they were drawn? The photo I posted doesn't do justice, the OG photo is much more convoluted and representative of the situation.




Not to mention, you can't photoshop out of nothing; you need a base photo. Hence, this photo is authentic.


EDIT: Would you be kind as to point out to specific instances of what you deem 'spaghetti women?' I would like to see them.
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Re: More "Magically Disappearing jew" Nonsense

Post by Turnagain » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:01 am

DabbingIsSoMuchFun wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:12 pm
Turnagain wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:57 pm
Care to explain the "spaghetti women" who were so crudely drawn into that photo, Dabbing?
They are, um, dead. You can be liberal with their corpses. How do you know they were drawn? The photo I posted doesn't do justice, the OG photo is much more convoluted and representative of the situation.

Not to mention, you can't photoshop out of nothing; you need a base photo. Hence, this photo is authentic.

EDIT: Would you be kind as to point out to specific instances of what you deem 'spaghetti women?' I would like to see them.
The photo was altered way before photoshop was available and was rather crudely done. For a discussion of it, see here.
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... men#p82855
Your "absolute proof" photo has made the rounds and its provenance is questionable while its forgeries have been thoroughly debunked. You can stamp your feet and shriek, "It's real, it's real" from now til forever but the fact is, it isn't anything to hang your hat on.

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Post by Trolljegeren » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:49 am

I think it would be valuable if you reposted those CODOH pics here along with your very valued opinion. Great stuff thanks. Interesting Krema prop they have indeed. Seems totally fake, dummies lying on the ground not real people? What do you think?

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Re: More "Magically Disappearing jew" Nonsense

Post by Turnagain » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:29 am

Trolljegeren wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:49 am
I think it would be valuable if you reposted those CODOH pics here along with your very valued opinion. Great stuff thanks. Interesting Krema prop they have indeed. Seems totally fake, dummies lying on the ground not real people? What do you think?
I did try reposting those photos but unfortunately, I failed due to my marginal computer skills. :oops: However, the link works just fine so give it a shot if you would like.

I believe that it was Nisco who posted a photo of louse infested clothing being burnt so there's a possibility that this is a similar photo with the cadavers drawn in. The possibility that the photo is a doctored version of a train wreck scene in the US has been raised. There's also the so-called window frame that's been added to the photo. Beyond the obvious fakery, the photo has no provenance whatsoever. There's not even a negative of it available. I can't for the life of me understand why Dabbing is so insistent that we put credence into what could most charitably be called a dubious artifact.

At any rate, I would file the photo as totally useless as proof of anything.

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