Sure, I will copy my other posts from downstairs and bring them up here.
Goody apparently fancies himself an intellectual. He is making a stink on the skeptics forum
as zionist-occupation has noted here
If one follows the thread, one will see that I refuted every single argument that Werd made and he actually stopped replying to the thread
Click that link and it goes here.
Goody67 wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:51 pm
Werd wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:01 pm
And yet by the same token, you guys also use your inability to read German to declare those books incorrect (as well as Goody's argument "Oh that British said so and that's it and that's all") and that there is nothing pertinent in them. Hypocrites.
Why would you post sources that you have not even read?
I have skimmed through both books, they both predominantly focus on the Bromberg massacre. There is no mention of any pre-WW2 massacres.
The sources you have used so far don't mention anything that you are claiming.
You should perhaps read https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1045758/
("Default Evidence for Poles massacring ethnic Germans in Poland BEFORE the war started"), it is full of deniers using the same BS sources you have been presented and were refuted by the more genuine users.
Do you have any new evidence for your claim?
1. "I have skimmed through both books, they both predominantly focus on the Bromberg massacre. There is no mention of any pre-WW2 massacres. "
He had plenty of opportunity to prove such about these two books
and he failed.
2. Goody also believes in the Gleiwitz hoax that Veronica Clark debunked
. He ignored here and basically said, "Nuermberg. Nuremberg. Nuermberg. Naujocks told the truth. Naujocks told the truth. Naujocks told the truth." Sorry, no. That doesn't count.
3. According to a book
that Goody found on page 42
, atrocities were happening even on the 1st of September, not just starting on Bromberg massacre on 3rd of September. Naturally he ignored it.
4. Goody then said
there is no proof in any of the white and blue German books (that he linked to here
later) that anything serious was being committed by the Poles pre-war. However according to a quote
from Unconditioned Canuck on Stormfront, that is incorrect.
Werd wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:05 pm
For the last time, when even the contemporary primary German sources of the then German Foreign Office lack any information on any pre-war massacres, it's time you stop spreading lies about pre-war massacres. What is so hard to understand? I do not understand.
from Unconditioned Canuck:
A German Patriot Reflects On September 1939
The German minority had been disfranchised in the 1920s, and in the 1930s it was subjected to open terror, murder and rape, especially in the months preceding September 1939. Under the nonaggression treaty German newspapers were not allowed to report on Polish atrocities against the minority Germans, which led to the emigration of a million Germans.
Another million remained behind in German regions that had been seized by the Poles. A popular song about the Poles that originated among the fighting home defense units in Upper Silesia was rewritten in National Socialist songbooks to suggest that the struggle was not against "Pjorunje" but rather "Bolschewike".
Since the British guarantee of 31 March 1939 gave Poland carte blanche in its dealings with Germany, Poland intensified its persecutions of the German minority. Abductions became common, speaking German in public was proscribed, German associations and newspapers were suppressed, the German consul in Krakow was murdered, etc. It is irrelevant whether Poles or Germans attacked the Gleiwitz transmitting station; whoever reads the White Book of the German- Polish war will find countless undisputed murders and assaults committed by the Poles in the weeks and months preceding 1 September 1939.
And yes, incase anyone is getting a sense of deja vu, this is very similar to my post here.
The Nazis themselves never even made the stupid claim!!!
Except they did in the German White Book. (Something that's never even touched upon in your post)
So wait a minute, did you just bust Goody for ignoring the FIRST PART of your post, and focusing only on the second part of your post which has a footnote to a German book that is not digitally reproduced on the internet for his convenience? Does this mean that his previous claim that there is nothing in any white book is bullshit? I guess so. I guess that means Goody didn't really read the white book that he linked to
previously. Or if he did read that white book link he gave, and didn't find what was cited in Walendy's book, he obviously had a corrupted, sanitized version. He is free at this point to indulge in a conspiracy theory that what he was caught dodging from Walendy was totally made up by Walendy and is absolutely fake, but he will only continue to embarrass himself.
Guaranteed he won't bring this up on septics forum. (spelling intentional).
zionist-occupation wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:19 am
Pages 155-175 in Walendy's Truth for Germany provides both primary and secondary sources on Polish attitudes towards the German minorities.
https://ia800303.us.archive.org/18/item ... NDYeng.pdf
Here's three citations that I found interesting:
“German protests were of no avail (No. 360). At the beginning of April, a
public appeal proclaiming the general program[me] for de-Germanization of
the country was circulated throughout Poland (No. 358). Towards the middle
of April, the first German fugitives crossed the frontier (No. 359). It was
practically impossible for the Consulates to report every individual case (No.
361). Anti-German agitation raged unchecked in Upper Silesia (No. 362).
Reports from the German Consuls were full of terrorist acts (No. 363). The
Polish Insurgents Society gave the orders for these actions (No. 364). On May
6, the Consul-General in Kattowitz reported two hundred acts of terror (No.
365) and on May 19, another hundred, all of which had occurred in Upper
Silesia alone (No. 372). All Germans were in fear of their lives and property.
Terrorism spread also to Congress Poland and was intensified by systematic
acts of incendiarism (No. 366). The last strongholds of German culture were
destroyed (No. 369, 373, 374, 377, 379, 383, 385, 390, 391, 399, etc.). In
despair, the German minority appealed to the Polish President (No. 369). The
British Government, although kept informed by the German Embassy in London
of the nature of these developments which inevitably endangered peace (No.
368), remained inactive. Towards the middle of May, anti-German
demonstrations developed into pogroms, in the course of which thousands of
Germans were hunted “like unprotected game” (Nos. 370, 371). The number
of fugitives increased (No. 374) as did Polish “sabre-rattling”, the declaration
of annexationist war aims (Nos. 367, 378) and public insults and affronts to
the Fuehrer which led to renewed protests (No. 382). In the commercial world,
German co-operative societies, dairies and pharmacies were systematically
liquidated (Nos. 380, 395). On June 7 a report from Lodz stated: “The threat
of death, torture etc., for German nationals, has become an everyday matter of
course.” Whole families, because of constant threats of murder, passed their
nights in the shelter of the woods (No. 381).
The only answer to protests lodged with the Polish Foreign Office was a
shrug of the shoulders and the tacit avowal that nothing could be done against
the military authorities and Polish chauvinism (Nos. 382, 385). …
Polish bishops were requested by a colonel on the General Staff to pray “that
the time of tribulation for our Polish brethren beyond the frontier might be shortened
and that another Grunwald might release them from bondage” (No. 392).…
Time and time again the authorities themselves proved to be responsible
for this process of liquidation (No. 396). …
Germans in Galicia were faced with annihilation; the outlook was hopeless,
and they were threatened with arson and murder (No. 407). What was left
undone by open terrorism was made up for by an insupportable burden of
taxes and chicanery on the part of the authorities (No. 408).” 16)
Source: “German White Book” pp. XVIII, XIX. / English edit. pp. CXLII-CXLIV
I'm stopping the post here just to focus on the white book citations. This is what Goody gave a while back for an English translation of the white book.
http://web.archive.org/web/201404082203 ... 0Book.html
Now let's collect the numbers that show up in Walendy's book.
358. 359. 360. 361. 362. 363. 364. 365. 367. 369. 370, 371, 372, 373, 374, 377, 378, 379, 380. 381. 382. 383, 385, 390, 391, 392, 395, 396, 399, 407, 408.
Now let's look at the ones that are in the white book Walendy had access to but NOT in the one Goody linked to:
358. 359. 360. 361. 362. 363. 364. 365. 367. 371, 372, 373, 374, 377, 378, 379, 380. 381. 382. 383, 390, 391, 392, 395, 396, 399, 408.
Do we understand what's going on now?