Only the first 6 for sure are being claimed to belong to Einsatzgruppe B. You agreed to this before.
I said he does NOT assign the rest of them to Einsatzgruppe B. I based this on other things he wrote further down on page 309.Mattogno argues that "in the best of cases, the [Nazi] documents attest to 2 Diamond 'gas vans' and 4 Saurer: 6 'gas vans'" (p.309). His arithmetic goes as follows:
"2 Saurer vehicles to Einsatzgruppe B" according to the Activity and Situation Report of Einsatzgruppe B of 1 March 1942
"2 Diamond vehicles and 1 Saurer vehicle to Einsatzgruppe B" according to the telex Trühe to Rauff of 15 June 1942 (PS-501)
"1 Saurer vehicle assigned to Einsatzgruppe B" from Belgrad according to the telex Schäfer to Pradel of 9 June 1942 (PS-501).
The sum of this is six gas vans – all to Einsatzgruppe B according to Mattogno's best knowledge (well, that means little as we already know).
He has jumped from 6 vans in Einsatzgruppe B, to talking about the rest of the Einsatzgruppen. Which is why I say the other 20, are about other Einsatzgruppen. Look at your own words.The "gas vans" are said to have been developed essentially in order to facilitate the massacre activities of the Einsatzgruppen, to whom they had been delivered and precisely for this purpose. According to Beer, of this six presumed "gas vans" from the "first series" (Diamond trademark) build in 1941, one was assigned to Einsatzgruppe C, one to Einsatzgruppe D, and two to Chelmno (Beer, 1987, p. 413); in addition to which another thirty are said to have been assigned in 1942, twenty of which are said to have been consigned in April (ibid, p. 415), one at Chelmno, and the remainder evidently to the Einsatzgruppen.
Clearly he is free and able to talk specifically about Einsatzgruppe B, and then move on to other ones. And he does. It seems you agree that the first 6 on top of page 309 is about Einsatzgruppe B. It seems you also agree that the other 20 are spread out to other units. If you apparently agree with me on both these points, we can move on to the last step so I have something to send to Germar and Mattogno to get them to answer for."In the best of cases, the documents attest to 2 Diamond “gas vans” and 4 Saurer: 6 “gas vans” out of at least 26. There is no information at all about the remaining 20 vehicles. The question greatly concerns orthodox Holocaust historians, who make aggressive use of trial testimony without any objective confirmation in attempts to supply even the semblance of an answer...."
The bold part only makes sense if he talks about all gas vans - irrespective of unit.
Now, are you alright with everything else I posted back here and summarized as follows?
Because if you are that means I know where you and I both stand clear as day on the issues. When that is settled, I want to take this to Germar Rudolf like I have the other HC critiques, so that we can get some answers.In summary:
1. Mattogno made a mistake on page 309 of his book when he said that in the Mathias Beer article on page 413, there were two vans that nobody knew where they want. Beer clearly stated where they want. Mattogno either didn't see it, or he did but ignored it and didn't care.
2. There is a typo/discrepancy between the English and Italian editions apparently that Hans pointed out, which would erase any contradictions about Saurer van numbers between pages 323, 326 and 327. But there is still an unresolved issue with the "smaller vans".
3. Mattogno has his chronology about Einsatzgruppe A and Einsatzgruppe B mixed up regarding when each was actually present in Minsk.