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Re: The Dutch Jews

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:42 pm
by Nessie
OK, you have no evidence as to the resettlement of the Dutch Jews. That in itself is evidence they were not resettled.

Re: The Dutch Jews

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:09 am
by Nessie
Hi, Depth Check, the evidence the Dutch Jews were not resettled is from the Dutch Survivors, the Nazis at Sobibor, the Poles who drove the trains and the documents that have been traced, none of which mention c34,000 people leaving the camp in mass transports on a daily basis in 1943.

Edit - why did you delete your question?

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Re: The Dutch Jews

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:45 am
by Charles Traynor
Nessie wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:42 pm
OK, you have no evidence as to the resettlement of the Dutch Jews. That in itself is evidence they were not resettled.
The Jewish communities continuous efforts to censor the Internet are clear evidence the holocaust never happened.

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Where do you think they were?

Re: The Dutch Jews

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:55 am
by Nessie
Charles, there is no evidence the Dutch Jews were resettled. That c34,000 of them left no trace at all of resettlement is evidence they were not resettled. That lack of evidence is why you go off topic and resort to a non sequitur.

Re: The Dutch Jews

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:54 pm
by Trolljegeren
They are among the 1.5 million mentioned by Henry and taken to the USSR . Perhaps some emigrated. At the end of the day who cares.

Re: The Dutch Jews

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:48 pm
by Nessie
Trolljegeren wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:54 pm
They are among the 1.5 million mentioned by Henry and taken to the USSR . Perhaps some emigrated. At the end of the day who cares.
That misses out that they will have had to remain in Nazi custody from June 1943 to July 1944 when the Soviets started to find and liberate the camps.

Where did the Nazis accommodate them during that period?

Re: The Dutch Jews

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:14 pm
by Trolljegeren
Which camps, seems they went here there and everywhere according to some of your witnesses. A pair of sisters went to 7 and 8 camps respectively.

Re: The Dutch Jews

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:05 am
by Nessie
Trolljegeren wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:14 pm
Which camps, seems they went here there and everywhere according to some of your witnesses. A pair of sisters went to 7 and 8 camps respectively.
On leaving Sobibor the witnesses who were in the group selected to work report they went to Auschwitz. Some did go to other camps.

The issue you dodge is where did those not selected to work go? They did not leave the camp. So what happened to them?

Re: The Dutch Jews

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:11 am
by NSDAP
Nessie wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:05 am


On leaving Sobibor the witnesses who were in the group selected to work report they went to Auschwitz. Some did go to other camps.

The issue you dodge is where did those not selected to work go? They did not leave the camp. So what happened to them?
I think the overwhelming message Nessie is that they like most people either died somehow or ended up in the Soviet Union. Remember, Anne Frank died of typhus and so did thousands of others. I am looking at culpability here: I was inclined to blame Churchill but there is no reason for the Reich to remove Jews from Holland or Hungary only Germany.

Re: The Dutch Jews

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:17 am
by Nessie
NSDAP wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:11 am
Nessie wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:05 am


On leaving Sobibor the witnesses who were in the group selected to work report they went to Auschwitz. Some did go to other camps.

The issue you dodge is where did those not selected to work go? They did not leave the camp. So what happened to them?
I think the overwhelming message Nessie is that they like most people either died somehow or ended up in the Soviet Union. Remember, Anne Frank died of typhus and so did thousands of others. I am looking at culpability here: I was inclined to blame Churchill but there is no reason for the Reich to remove Jews from Holland or Hungary only Germany.
The problem you keep on ignoring is the gap between arriving at Sobibor in 1943 and liberation, whether by the Soviets or the western Allies was at least a year away.

Where were all those Dutch Jews you say were not gassed accommodated? It was not in Sobibor. Only some went to Auschwitz. There is no record of the rest going anywhere at all.