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Nessie wrote:
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Name the witness who claimed steaming and show what they said.
The witnesses are not important though Samuel Rajzman and Dr Fischer the District Governor the Warsaw district come to mind. Razman has claimed both gas and suffocation by a machine that pumped air out of the chamber. There were no witnesses as it did not happen duh. It was a propaganda lie by the Polish Government in Exile the same ones who fabricated the Auschwitz story with their spy who managed to escape and inform the Polish Underground.
What is important is who believed this utter nonsense.
American prosecutors at the main Nuremberg trial supported the steam story. As proof, a Polish government report dated December 5, 1945, was submitted as prosecution exhibit USA-293. It charged that Jews were killed at the camp "by suffocating them in steam-filled chambers." This report, which says nothing about poison gas killings, was published in the official Nuremberg trial record as document PS-3311. An American prosecutor quoted from this report during his address to the Tribunal on December 14, 1945.

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At Nuremberg it was testified that a small town was built near Auschwitz that could hold 20 000 prisoners. A nuclear device was set off that obliterated them all in an instant. Here is the testimony at the court. There is no evidence except to the contrary that Germans and Dr Heisenberg had developed nuclear chain reactions.
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Re: Holocaust Stories

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Speer must have been thinking to himself; "Who is this fucking idiot?"

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rollo the ganger wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:40 pm
Speer must have been thinking to himself; "Who is this fucking idiot?"
I agree, I assume the man is on trial and the Judge asks intense leading questions. I am not a law expert but even in my limited experience this seems untoward. The Judge in that era should only know the law not any knowledge of Nuclear technology. I guess atom bombs were science fiction then until it became science fact at Los Alamos. :)
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Some of the Polish intelligence reports from the war were erroneous as to the method of killing. Later investigations corrected those earlier errors. That such errors have been corrected is evidence that since the war the Holocaust has been investigated critically and that is a major reason why the idea of the Holocaust as a massive hoax is unsustainable. It would have been impossible to achieve.

Death in a steam chamber is not too dissimilar to death in a gas chamber. The error there is understandable. The claim of a small nuclear device is utter nonsense. Of course deniers cherry pick the faulty claims and ignore the reports which reported gas was being used to kill.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
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Nessie wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:30 am
Some of the Polish intelligence reports from the war were erroneous as to the method of killing. Later investigations corrected those earlier errors. That such errors have been corrected is evidence that since the war the Holocaust has been investigated critically and that is a major reason why the idea of the Holocaust as a massive hoax is unsustainable. It would have been impossible to achieve.

Death in a steam chamber is not too dissimilar to death in a gas chamber. The error there is understandable. The claim of a small nuclear device is utter nonsense.
Those intelligence reports were misinformation for the purposes of propaganda: this is accepted in war. They were not erroneous but misinformation or basic lies. There was no holocaust but millions of deaths and the only examinations are totally biased hence the laws on so called "denial". You are correct the holohoax is impossible to sustain but the Soviets attempted it and we are here to thwart it.
Lobstering people and gassing people are totally different, so far fetched to the point of absurdity and you Jew are trying to put the broken egg back to pieces with chewing gum. It is the same nonsense as the nuclear device and there is more to come.
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NSDAP wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:49 pm
Nessie wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:30 am
Some of the Polish intelligence reports from the war were erroneous as to the method of killing. Later investigations corrected those earlier errors. That such errors have been corrected is evidence that since the war the Holocaust has been investigated critically and that is a major reason why the idea of the Holocaust as a massive hoax is unsustainable. It would have been impossible to achieve.

Death in a steam chamber is not too dissimilar to death in a gas chamber. The error there is understandable. The claim of a small nuclear device is utter nonsense.
Those intelligence reports were misinformation for the purposes of propaganda: this is accepted in war. They were not erroneous but misinformation or basic lies.
They were erroneous, because we agree they were wrong. Steam was not used. You need to prove they deliberately said steam when they knew something else had happened, to show they lied. Various Polish reports claimed gas was being used. The issue is that at the time they did not know what the gas was.
There was no holocaust but millions of deaths and the only examinations are totally biased hence the laws on so called "denial". You are correct the holohoax is impossible to sustain but the Soviets attempted it and we are here to thwart it.
Then why, after so many years and so much time spent by some deniers searching archives, can no evidence be found to contradict the evidenced mass murder narrative? The answer is because there is no evidence and denial is wrong.
Lobstering people and gassing people are totally different, so far fetched to the point of absurdity and you Jew are trying to put the broken egg back to pieces with chewing gum. It is the same nonsense as the nuclear device and there is more to come.
No witness nor Polish report claimed anything like witnesses were cooked like lobsters, that is pure denial propaganda to deflect away from what the witnesses and reports did say. It is ironic that denial uses similar propaganda techniques to those it condemns for using propaganda.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
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We use the Lobster description to show the absurdity, though I am sure Lobsters are more tastier than Jude. Yes the steaming was 'fake news" and as we will show so was everything else.
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NSDAP wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:26 pm
We use the Lobster description to show the absurdity, though I am sure Lobsters are more tastier than Jude. Yes the steaming was 'fake news" and as we will show so was everything else.
You use the lobster description to misrepresent what was actually said and create a false absurdity.

That is because you cannot argue against what was actually said. Some, who did not directly see gassings or only had a limited view and little detail, thought steam was being used. They otherwise describe people being forced into chambers, a gas being introduced, those inside suffocating and dying. That now does not appear at all absurd.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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