The big lie — people coming out of it.

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The big lie — people coming out of it.

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There seem to increasing numbers of people who are becoming aware of the deceitful and/or delusional nature of this 'holocaust' narrative.

This topic-thread is intended as a place to share some of the many examples of people expressing that.

Here's one:
It was Hitler who favored creation of Israel and immigration of Jews to Palestine and also offered them free transportation. However Rabbi Abba Hillal Silver of Cleveland and Rabbi Stephen wise of New York assailed the decision on the ground that it will make Jews a pauperized salesmen of German made goods (see New York Times Dt January 15, 1939).

New York times dated may 20, 1945 reported liberation of 6 million Jewish 'slaves' working in hidden factories. all of them were well fed and alive.

Proof 1; New York times dated may 20, 1945 reported liberation of 6 million Jewish 'slaves' working in hidden factories. all of them were well fed and alive.

1st political Zionist Theodor Herzl the 'Father of Zionism' used the term 'the final solution of the Jewish Question' and 6 million Jewish Holocaust in an 1899 letter to the Russian Czar to repossess Jerusalem from Muslims.

6 million Jewish holocaust was 1st reported as final solution for possession of Jerusalem in Russia in 1901 and thereafter 26 times reported in NYT before start of WW2.

Proof 2: To capture 6 million, feed them protect them from allied bombing you need to have an equally large number of army. Germany was at a war. It needed all its men at fronts. 6 million Jews and six million spare army men means they could have additional resources of 12 million army and they could have easily defeated Russia and consequently allies. Germany would not spare precious resources to protect Jews.

Proof 3: Prisoners liberated from camps. It means Jews were alive and being fed. You don’t feed or protect a person you want to kill. If they were killed then who was liberated.

Proof 4: photographs. In none of the photographs are the victims religion is identified. in none of the photos, the number of persons exceed 100. there are not 6,00,000 different photos doing the round. 2nd argument- who authenticated the photo shoppers-the same Jews who wanted and got Israel and Eisenhower who himself killed unarmed 1.7 million German POWs in his death Camps and sold those Photos of his death camps as those of Jews.

Proof 5: As per western / US/ Russian Historians there were also ‘millions’ of eye witnesses watching 6 million Jews being killed. There were also ‘millions’ of photographs/ photographers and ‘millions’ of documents writers since there are 47 million documents, ‘millions’ also escaped. ‘millions’ also survived, so approx 90 million people were involved in evidencing / recording of 6 million Jewish Holocaust. After deducting these 90 million eye witnesses, document writers, photographers etc so according to Holocaust Believers, there was no WW2 as none is left to fight WW 2 which became mythical.

Is it illegal to deny WW2? No

Is it illegal to deny earth is round? No

Is it illegal to deny 9/11? No

Is it illegal to deny Holocaust? Yes

why?
Adolf Hitler wrote:"The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of the nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell a big one."
He was right wasn't he? Yes
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been-there wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:11 am
There seem to increasing numbers of people who are becoming aware of the deceitful and/or delusional nature of this 'holocaust' narrative.

This topic-thread is intended as a place to share some of the many examples of people expressing that.

Here's one:
It was Hitler who favored creation of Israel and immigration of Jews to Palestine and also offered them free transportation. However Rabbi Abba Hillal Silver of Cleveland and Rabbi Stephen wise of New York assailed the decision on the ground that it will make Jews a pauperized salesmen of German made goods (see New York Times Dt January 15, 1939).

New York times dated may 20, 1945 reported liberation of 6 million Jewish 'slaves' working in hidden factories. all of them were well fed and alive.

Proof 1; New York times dated may 20, 1945 reported liberation of 6 million Jewish 'slaves' working in hidden factories. all of them were well fed and alive.

1st political Zionist Theodor Herzl the 'Father of Zionism' used the term 'the final solution of the Jewish Question' and 6 million Jewish Holocaust in an 1899 letter to the Russian Czar to repossess Jerusalem from Muslims.

6 million Jewish holocaust was 1st reported as final solution for possession of Jerusalem in Russia in 1901 and thereafter 26 times reported in NYT before start of WW2.

Proof 2: To capture 6 million, feed them protect them from allied bombing you need to have an equally large number of army. Germany was at a war. It needed all its men at fronts. 6 million Jews and six million spare army men means they could have additional resources of 12 million army and they could have easily defeated Russia and consequently allies. Germany would not spare precious resources to protect Jews.

Proof 3: Prisoners liberated from camps. It means Jews were alive and being fed. You don’t feed or protect a person you want to kill. If they were killed then who was liberated.

Proof 4: photographs. In none of the photographs are the victims religion is identified. in none of the photos, the number of persons exceed 100. there are not 6,00,000 different photos doing the round. 2nd argument- who authenticated the photo shoppers-the same Jews who wanted and got Israel and Eisenhower who himself killed unarmed 1.7 million German POWs in his death Camps and sold those Photos of his death camps as those of Jews.

Proof 5: As per western / US/ Russian Historians there were also ‘millions’ of eye witnesses watching 6 million Jews being killed. There were also ‘millions’ of photographs/ photographers and ‘millions’ of documents writers since there are 47 million documents, ‘millions’ also escaped. ‘millions’ also survived, so approx 90 million people were involved in evidencing / recording of 6 million Jewish Holocaust. After deducting these 90 million eye witnesses, document writers, photographers etc so according to Holocaust Believers, there was no WW2 as none is left to fight WW 2 which became mythical.

Is it illegal to deny WW2? No

Is it illegal to deny earth is round? No

Is it illegal to deny 9/11? No

Is it illegal to deny Holocaust? Yes

why?
Adolf Hitler wrote:"The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of the nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell a big one."
He was right wasn't he? Yes
Your source for this cut and paste job is?


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been-there wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:11 am
There seem to increasing numbers of people who are becoming aware of the deceitful and/or delusional nature of this 'holocaust' narrative.

This topic-thread is intended as a place to share some of the many examples of people expressing that.

Here's one:
It was Hitler who favored creation of Israel and immigration of Jews to Palestine and also offered them free transportation. However Rabbi Abba Hillal Silver of Cleveland and Rabbi Stephen wise of New York assailed the decision on the ground that it will make Jews a pauperized salesmen of German made goods (see New York Times Dt January 15, 1939).

New York times dated may 20, 1945 reported liberation of 6 million Jewish 'slaves' working in hidden factories. all of them were well fed and alive.

Proof 1; New York times dated may 20, 1945 reported liberation of 6 million Jewish 'slaves' working in hidden factories. all of them were well fed and alive.

1st political Zionist Theodor Herzl the 'Father of Zionism' used the term 'the final solution of the Jewish Question' and 6 million Jewish Holocaust in an 1899 letter to the Russian Czar to repossess Jerusalem from Muslims.

6 million Jewish holocaust was 1st reported as final solution for possession of Jerusalem in Russia in 1901 and thereafter 26 times reported in NYT before start of WW2.

Proof 2: To capture 6 million, feed them protect them from allied bombing you need to have an equally large number of army. Germany was at a war. It needed all its men at fronts. 6 million Jews and six million spare army men means they could have additional resources of 12 million army and they could have easily defeated Russia and consequently allies. Germany would not spare precious resources to protect Jews.

Proof 3: Prisoners liberated from camps. It means Jews were alive and being fed. You don’t feed or protect a person you want to kill. If they were killed then who was liberated.

Proof 4: photographs. In none of the photographs are the victims religion is identified. in none of the photos, the number of persons exceed 100. there are not 6,00,000 different photos doing the round. 2nd argument- who authenticated the photo shoppers-the same Jews who wanted and got Israel and Eisenhower who himself killed unarmed 1.7 million German POWs in his death Camps and sold those Photos of his death camps as those of Jews.

Proof 5: As per western / US/ Russian Historians there were also ‘millions’ of eye witnesses watching 6 million Jews being killed. There were also ‘millions’ of photographs/ photographers and ‘millions’ of documents writers since there are 47 million documents, ‘millions’ also escaped. ‘millions’ also survived, so approx 90 million people were involved in evidencing / recording of 6 million Jewish Holocaust. After deducting these 90 million eye witnesses, document writers, photographers etc so according to Holocaust Believers, there was no WW2 as none is left to fight WW 2 which became mythical.

Is it illegal to deny WW2? No

Is it illegal to deny earth is round? No

Is it illegal to deny 9/11? No

Is it illegal to deny Holocaust? Yes

why?
Adolf Hitler wrote:"The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of the nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell a big one."
He was right wasn't he? Yes
What a bizarre post this is ! Been There states in his OP that according to him :
There seem to increasing numbers of people who are becoming aware of the deceitful and/or delusional nature of this 'holocaust' narrative.
...which gives the impression he would then proceed to furnish us with the names of such people. But all that follows is a mish-mash of generalisations, canards and the usual 'denier-esque' irrelevance ! This has got to be one of the most pointless and muddled threads ever to appear on this forum, and there are no shortages for that accolade !
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Here's a new social-media film documentary by someone calling himself Tobias. Part seven touches on it:



Part eight is just about it:


Here is the web site for it:
https://europathelastbattle.wordpress.com
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New ???? Then why is it full of the usual irrelevant narrative and piss-poor denier canards that were debunked years ago ??? Lol, what an absolute joke :lol: :lol:
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I presume the idea that thread is to share examples of people expressing doubts about the Holocaust and to make comment on them.

As Mark Caine said, the first example is a cut and paste, it is not even sourced. The second are slick propaganda films, with glossy production and sinister background music, designed to appeal to those who do not need claims to be evidenced and who would not look critically at uncredited talking heads. It opens by blaming an American who in a speech "declared war" on the Nazis for causing WWII and included a claim 98% Communists were Jews. That was just in the first 20 minutes.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Nessie wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:46 pm
I presume the idea that thread is to share examples of people expressing doubts about the Holocaust and to make comment on them.

As Mark Caine said, the first example is a cut and paste, it is not even sourced. The second are slick propaganda films, with glossy production and sinister background music, designed to appeal to those who do not need claims to be evidenced and who would not look critically at uncredited talking heads. It opens by blaming an American who in a speech "declared war" on the Nazis for causing WWII and included a claim 98% Communists were Jews. That was just in the first 20 minutes.
You really couldn't make it up. Been There decides to make a stand against reality by pretending that increased numbers of people are becoming deniers, even though he is obviously aware that the exact opposite is true. Most of the original players on the denier scene are either dead, given up, become inactive or have become 'believers' !! The only 'new' blood coming through all appear to be 3rd rate face-book or you-tube types, dead from the waist up.

Yes Been There..."the tide is turning" , it really is :lol: :lol:
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May 6th, 2012 by timster51

SO WHAT?

A friend recently alerted me to an upcoming lecture tour by another “holocaust survivor”.
This woman, Irene Zisblatt, that is coming to an elementary school near you, has got to rank second only to Elie “Weasel” in her popularity on the holohoax-lie circuit.

But the lying Weasel has got nothing on this “Granny-like” character.
She specialises in spreading her lies to school children. I would imagine that these kids sit in credulous awe as “Granny” weaves her fairy tales of evil doctors, bitch guards and swallowing then shitting diamonds. And how she outwitted them all to come to America and live to tell the tale.

Ok. We all know the drill. We have all had to put up with this shit for 40-50 years in the Occident.
Another acquaintance asked me once, after hearing me rail on against this disgusting propaganda:
“So what? So what if their tales are embellished, or even completely false? what harm does it do?”

Well, there’s the rub, isn’t it. What harm indeed.
Well, if it was just another ‘story’ told by ancients sitting around the nursing home like the following, each trying to out-do the other, it would be hilarious and harmless.

But to answer the question posed, it requires quite a bit more examination, and on multiple levels.

First, imagine yourself as a ten-year-old child being corralled into an auditorium and lo and behold, there is a woman onstage that looks just like your Grandmother. She begins weaving these tales and says the word “poop”. That’s fun. Then she tells of evil villains, gas-chambers and jews. You don’t even know what a jew is, but this story is better than anything your Gran tells you before bed!
These tales go to a special part of your brain’s filing system. All wound around fairy tales and spooks under your bed.
But as you grow these tales are moved to the “known to be true” part of your cranium for they are reinforced by “facts” spewed out daily in the media about that time that your surrogate Granny told you of. Six million. Six million. Then you feel yourself lucky to have been in the same room as this woman that told you the “truth”, way back then. Very impressive.

Next, even though all of these stories of concentration camp horrors have been debunked at one time or another, it is the constant reminder that jews are the eternal victim. Oh, you may not go to hear Eva Kor, or pay to see “Inglorious Basterds“, but the images and the illusion of truth surrounds these slickly-marketed myths. And you and your kids buy it like a Big Mac. Gobble it down without tasting it. Don’t listen to the warnings about the hazards of such fair, just gobble it down. The next one is even bigger and better. And what does all this accomplish? You have solidified the eternally-suffering-jew in your psyche. Nothing can remove it. He is playing his sad fiddle from the roof and you cannot deny him.
So when he tells you again of his suffering the concentration-camp type of hatred from the next evil Hitler, you believe. You believe so much that you allow your child to die in his wars. It is that simple. It produces that much horror. This holohoax excuses ten-times the detestable behaviour of those mythical Nazi “death camps”. It is meant to excuse the TRUE open air prison camp that is Gaza. It is meant to make you turn a blind eye to the unspeakable murder of women and children. And it all starts with a lie. The big lie.

https://timsterhowdarei.wordpress.com/2 ... 6/so-what/
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I think this is going to help more people come out of it...

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