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The test: Do you agree with me that railroad delousing gas chambers could have been e-a-s-i-l-y used to commit mass murder by the Nazis?

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With my limited knowledge, I would think that the railroad delousinig chambers when compared to the obvious inefficiency of the socalled homicidal gas chambers, would have done a marvelous job.Friedrich Paul Berg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:08 pmAlready in 1982 when I saw my first pictures of German railroad fumigation tunnels, especially the one in Budapest, I realized the holocaust had to be a hoax because that technology, already in place even before the war, made all the sense in the world for mass gassings--if anyone had really wanted to commit mass gassing. Sometime after 2000, I challenged people to admit that such gas chambers would have allowed mass gassings to occur "easily"--see my "Sanity Test." At first Germar Rudolf and Carlo Mattogno agreed with me--but a few years later Rudolf backed off. What a miserable coward! Faurisson had obviously gotten to him.
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The test: Do you agree with me that railroad delousing gas chambers could have been e-a-s-i-l-y used to commit mass murder by the Nazis?
FPBerg
Friedrich of course the kreislauf system would have worked effectively that if used would have been the perfect evidence for this alleged holocaust. It was not used and the claim that Zyklon was just tipped into a room full of people without that system is beyond credulity. You and others who have said the same are 100% correct. The analogy is just tipping petrol into a car without the carburetor: the car simply will not fire up, perhaps but flood. Another analogy is trying to light a fire with a match without kindling wood it simply will not light or even better using a 12V battery to start a car without a coil which is a transformer to boost the voltage up enough to make a spark plug spark. Another analogy would be to try and explode dynamite without a detonator. While it is possible all of these macro machines may work very poorly with crude methods a gaskammer by throwing in ZyklonB will not work as intended without micro modifications.Friedrich Paul Berg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:08 pmThere is no valid reason in the world to believe, even for an instant, that the railroad delousing chambers courld not have been used for mass murder and easily! Germar Rudolf has never even given one reason for why they might not have worked.
Montgomery2 seems to be so in awe of Faurisson's reputation that he cannot think critically here. Rudolf was not true to his science at all. He was true, however, to his own unspecified self-interest in my opinion. Shame on Rudolf!!!!
FPBerg
FPB didn't understand what I was suggesting. It's not that the large railway car delousing buildings wouldn't have been more efficient, it's that even they wouldn't have succeeded in doing the job. Isn't that really what Rudolf was saying?Huntinger wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:13 amFriedrich of course the kreislauf system would have worked effectively that if used would have been the perfect evidence for this alleged holocaust. It was not used and the claim that Zyklon was just tipped into a room full of people without that system is beyond credulity. You and others who have said the same are 100% correct. The analogy is just tipping petrol into a car without the carburetor: the car simply will not fire up, perhaps but flood. Another analogy is trying to light a fire with a match without kindling wood it simply will not light or even better using a 12V battery to start a car without a coil which is a transformer to boost the voltage up enough to make a spark plug spark. Another analogy would be to try and explode dynamite without a detonator. While it is possible all of these macro machines may work very poorly with crude methods a gaskammer by throwing in ZyklonB will not work as intended without micro modifications.Friedrich Paul Berg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:08 pmThere is no valid reason in the world to believe, even for an instant, that the railroad delousing chambers courld not have been used for mass murder and easily! Germar Rudolf has never even given one reason for why they might not have worked.
Montgomery2 seems to be so in awe of Faurisson's reputation that he cannot think critically here. Rudolf was not true to his science at all. He was true, however, to his own unspecified self-interest in my opinion. Shame on Rudolf!!!!
FPBerg
A little petrol poured into a car cylinder will make a car run a few seconds but not to the efficiency we are used to today. A small fire may burn with a match but not enough for the most part to light a fire in winter. It is possible to make a spark with a 12 v battery without a coil but the car will run very poorly as a certain amount of energy is needed to cross the chemical energy gradient for chemical reactions. You can indeed make dynamite explode by smacking a stick with a sledge hammer but that is not recommended for proper use nor for health and safety reasons. The crude method of Zyklon B is analogous to the situations described and simply not workable.
What Friedrich has said above is absolutely correct. The Nationalist Socialists had the technology to commit mass gassing, which is a far more technical process than throwing in a few cans of slow acting poison. Zyklon-b was relatively cheap and if used right could have done the job effectively, with only one or two delousing tunnels needed: the system would have been highly efficient without one Jew having to step off the train. I am sure a far more efficient system of body disposal could have been formalized rather than the inefficient ovens at Auschwitz or the alleged mass burials at Treblinka and so on.Friedrich Paul Berg wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:55 pmRevisionists over the decades from Bradley Smith on down have always pretended to be for "Open Debate" as at CODOH. The reality is, however, that "revisionists" are just as bigotted as any holocaust hoaxers. What these fools and bigots did was sidetrack holocaust revisionism for decades from something that made sense and was simple enough for many people to grasp--to something which is such a mess and so convoluted that no one except perhaps Germar Rudolf can possibly understand what he is saying. Germar Rudolf's excellent recent video "The Chemistry of Auschitz" is a total DUD because of that.
FPBerg
So, contrary to Scott Smith, even Sarin, Tabun, VX or Soman could NOT have been used for mass murder according to Fred Leuchter. Is Leuchter "SANE?" Should I a qualified "engineer," or anyone, quietly accept Leuchter's pronouncements as some kind of "divine truth?" Of course, not--but that is precisely what a swarm of demented revisionists especially at CODOH, including Germar Rudolf, are insisting on essentially.-----Original Message-----
From: fred1
Sent: Aug 30, 2014 2:49 PM
To: Friedrich Paul Berg
Subject: Re: Non-rasponse from Fred Leuchter and the really B-i-g gas chambers!
Fritz,
I have already told you. It will not work. No matter how many times you ask me It does not change. Mass Gassings of people with a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g are impossible! We can mass execute thousands of bugs, but not people. You cannot seem to understand that. It cannot be done. [emphasis added by FPB]
I remember, when I was at College, in Biology, we had the nicest little Jewish Girl in our lab group. No matter what the instructor said she asked why. He had gone as far as he could go. He told her that her questions were like "why does the sun come up every morning".
She did not want the astronomical answer she wanted the philosophical one. God made it happen. He was Jewish and he told her she needed to talk to her Rabbi. I think I must tell you the same. I am an Engineer and a Technician. I am not a Philosopher or a Clergyman. I am sorry. Study execution procedures and equipment. Then we will talk.
Fred
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