Relevant cremation experiments would be one where 4/5 bodies are cremated at a time in an over just like at krema II over the space of a few hours. Mattogno find no such experiment. So I am not lying.
Nessie still keeps lying. From me on page 53 here.
9.2.2 talks about experiences from the Westerbork crematoria. In the Westerbork crematorium, two corpses were never done simultaneously. Except for an adult and a small child. "During occasional cremations of one small child together with one adult corpse it had been observed that the small corpses had a significant effect on the cremation process, extending its average duration by 14% (50 minutes to 57 minutes) beyond the average cremation time of single adult corpses." (p. 316)
One adult body took longer than 30 minutes. That is PROOF POSITIVE you can't do 4 bodies in less time in one muffle of a 1930's coke fired oven. It already was established what was possible. Saying we need to find another experiment where 4 bodies were done, in order to know for sure, is just another lie.
Me on page 52.
4 corpses can not be cremated in 30 minutes in one muffle in a late 30's coke fired oven. Increasing the load does not help. Mattogno established this with cremation experiments that showed it took longer than 30 minutes to burn ONE body in ONE muffle. The fact that we already have had cremation experiments done showing one body in one muffle takes longer than 30 minutes IS THE PROOF that you can't do 4 bodies in one muffle in 30 minutes. Your whole stance of, "I can't find enough Jews, therefore Tauber is correct and he witnessed something unprecedented and by all experimental accounts physically impossible, in the history of cremation" is not an argument.
By establishing what a coke fired 30's oven CAN do, we are able to figure out what it CAN NOT do. This is basic logic and Nessie ignores it. He lies when he says we need an experiment with 4 corpses to know for sure if they can be done or not done in 30 minutes in one muffle.
The Bischoff Letter about predicted cremation capacity of 52 muffles whereby in a 24-hour period 4,756 bodies could be cremated. How is Bischoff a non expert, but Mattogno is an expert? The actual experts, those who were there, in particular the Topf and Sohne engineers are ignored because they admit mass gassing and cremations.
Nessie hides the facts from his readers. As I already said:
He mentioned a July 1943 document talking about muffles designed for two corpses at a time THAT NEVER ENDED UP BEING BUILT. It was, embarrassingly written by a non expert in the Central Construction Office of Auschwitz who claimed absurd cremation times for corpses that no expert ever held to. He was citing an October 1941 report whose numbers did not bear any resemblance to reality.
Check my post here
and the other one here
on page 41. Nessie was torn apart long ago.
Nessie flipped through Mattogno's book and thought he found a winner. He found an experiment with multiple cremations. It turns out, Nessie thought of 'multiple cremations' as multiple corpses in one muffle. But the Luigi experiment, when carefully examined had 4 corpses in 4 muffles and the next two muffles, 5 and 6, were empty. So that's not multiple cremations in the same way Nessie thought. To think otherwise, is to equivocate on "multiple cremations" and equivocation is a fallacy.
So, like the rest, it is not relevant.
Nessie thought it was relevant at the time. Which is why he cited it. He failed. Now he waves it off.
Werd hates it that there will be a time difference depending on how much the corpse is cremated and the Nazi cremation to dump remains will be shorter than cremation to ashes to respectfully return an urn to relatives.
Nessie continues to lie. I never said there was no difference between things that are obviously different. I am saying the difference was IRRELEVANT because the Nazis NEVER TOOK THE BODIES down to that further point of no bones to remain behind. The Westerbrok cremation of a corpse took 50 MINUTES. Even if it was all ash, that means that at the 30 minute point for sure IT WAS NOT THERE. Therefore that means at the 30 minute point, THERE ARE STILL CHUNKS OF ASH FOR ONE BODY. That means that in the case of 4 bodies in one muffle in 30 minutes, THERE FOR SURE WOULD NOT BE ONLY PURE ASH LEFT. Therefore Nessie led us on a path to NOWHERE! When I point out that even the Auschwitz survivors claim they were forced to smash bones up with large sticks/tools, all Nessie has to say is this:
Which is more evidence that the cremation time was short, as more work had to be done to render the cremated remains down.
And as I showed earlier, the fastest way to process Jews is to NOT wait for only ash to remain, but to WAIT FOR BODIES to be rendered down JUST ENOUGH to push them through the grates. THEREFORE this whole dichotomy of ash only versus ash and bones was A USELESS TROLLING TACTIC DESIGNED TO WASTE TIME.
Nessie is incapable of operating in anything other than bad faith. That makes him a troll.