AUTOPSIES are the well-kept secret that destroys the Holocaust HOAX!

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Re: AUTOPSIES are the well-kept secret that destroys the Holocaust HOAX!

Post by NSDAP » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:53 am

Nessie wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:15 am
NSDAP wrote:
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No Nessie he saw a fresh body, but as lividity can start after 30 mins it is a variable. The testimony is in that link take time to read it. If necessary investigate it as we are doing right now plus other ones. Please do your homework before responding in a reflex fashion as though you are supporting a cause. You said you are interested in the truth. Please continue this as uncomfortable as it will be for all of us.
There is nothing about carbon monoxide or cherry red in this link;

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/to-the ... the-making

The quote you use is not there.
Your are correct for once, when I posted the link it worked out but no longer does as continual posts come in. Here is an update from
my first day at the morgue
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Re: AUTOPSIES are the well-kept secret that destroys the Holocaust HOAX!

Post by Nessie » Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:22 am

A day at the morgue. So, just like the coroner in the source Berg uses, people see cherry red skin after death once lividity has started to form and settle, which takes at least 30 minutes to start forming and up to 6 hours to full form, assuming the body is not moved so that the lividity cannot settle.

That gap between death and lividity appearing, explains why those who cleared the gas chambers to the ovens or pits did not see the alleged vast majority of people with obvious skin discolouration.
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Re: AUTOPSIES are the well-kept secret that destroys the Holocaust HOAX!

Post by NSDAP » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:16 am

Nessie wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:22 am
A day at the morgue. So, just like the coroner in the source Berg uses, people see cherry red skin after death once lividity has started to form and settle, which takes at least 30 minutes to start forming and up to 6 hours to full form, assuming the body is not moved so that the lividity cannot settle.

That gap between death and lividity appearing, explains why those who cleared the gas chambers to the ovens or pits did not see the alleged vast majority of people with obvious skin discolouration.
Please read what people have mentioned. Inflammation and lividity are two different things; this was explained before and now you are trolling. The real reason why they did not see the colour is because it did not happen.
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Re: AUTOPSIES are the well-kept secret that destroys the Holocaust HOAX!

Post by Nessie » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:14 am

NSDAP wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:16 am
Nessie wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:22 am
A day at the morgue. So, just like the coroner in the source Berg uses, people see cherry red skin after death once lividity has started to form and settle, which takes at least 30 minutes to start forming and up to 6 hours to full form, assuming the body is not moved so that the lividity cannot settle.

That gap between death and lividity appearing, explains why those who cleared the gas chambers to the ovens or pits did not see the alleged vast majority of people with obvious skin discolouration.
Please read what people have mentioned. Inflammation and lividity are two different things; this was explained before and now you are trolling.
The NHS and CDC make no mention of a cherry red inflammation appearing before lividity. You are inventing a symptom unknown to medical science.
The real reason why they did not see the colour is because it did not happen.
Indeed, since on death and prior to lividity forming very few showed any signs of cherry red skin. That time gap is when the bodies were removed from the gas chambers to be buried or cremated.
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Re: AUTOPSIES are the well-kept secret that destroys the Holocaust HOAX!

Post by NSDAP » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:16 am

Nessie wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:14 am

You are inventing a symptom unknown to medical science.
Cattle excrement. You obviously have no idea what you are reading due to scientific and medical illiteracy. Go and look in the mirror you should be bright cherry red now due to inflammation: this was what being embarrassed does.
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Re: AUTOPSIES are the well-kept secret that destroys the Holocaust HOAX!

Post by Nessie » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:30 am

NSDAP wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:16 am
Nessie wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:14 am

You are inventing a symptom unknown to medical science.
Cattle excrement. You obviously have no idea what you are reading due to scientific and medical illiteracy. Go and look in the mirror you should be bright cherry red now due to inflammation: this was what being embarrassed does.
So how have the NHS and CDC, who monitor all hospital admissions and fatalities for CO poisoning in the UK and USA, not noticed this miracle symptom that would make an otherwise hard to diagnose medical emergency, easy to spot?

The medical evidence is clear, cherry red is common only after death when lividity forms. That takes time and that time is increased again by moving a body. It was during that time gap the chambers were cleared and the bodies buried or cremated.

The occasional appearance of skin discolouration was noticed by some witnesses, two at Birkenau for cyanide and one at Chelmno for CO.
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Re: AUTOPSIES are the well-kept secret that destroys the Holocaust HOAX!

Post by NSDAP » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:40 am

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Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:30 am


The occasional appearance of skin discolouration was noticed by some witnesses, two at Birkenau for cyanide and one at Chelmno for CO.
Not good enough when it is claimed over a million people were gassed. There was no gas chamber at Chelmno, only alleged “gas vans. The reason why this is not believed in because just one Jewish death would make this an "extermination camp": it is not.
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Re: AUTOPSIES are the well-kept secret that destroys the Holocaust HOAX!

Post by Nessie » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:58 am

NSDAP wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:40 am
Nessie wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:30 am


The occasional appearance of skin discolouration was noticed by some witnesses, two at Birkenau for cyanide and one at Chelmno for CO.
Not good enough when it is claimed over a million people were gassed. There was no gas chamber at Chelmno, only alleged “gas vans. The reason why this is not believed in because just one Jewish death would make this an "extermination camp": it is not.
The medical evidence is Berg is wrong. There would not be common and obvious skin discolouration from lividity after 30 minutes when the gas chamber doors were opened. He made a mistake thinking coroners see people immediately after death. They do not. The immediate was referring to arrival at the death scene, for bodies that had been lying for a while so lividity could form. That is why they should be able to spot the discolouration when examining the body.

As the gas chambers or gas vans were cleared, some witnesses did mention seeing the colours associated with cyanide or CO poisoning. Others did not. That is consistent with its occasional, not very distinct appearance in the period of 6 to 12 hours before lividity can fully settle and become obvious.
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Re: AUTOPSIES are the well-kept secret that destroys the Holocaust HOAX!

Post by NSDAP » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:22 am

Nessie wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:58 am


The medical evidence is Berg is wrong. There would not be common and obvious skin discolouration from lividity after 30 minutes when the gas chamber doors were opened. He made a mistake thinking coroners see people immediately after death. They do not. The immediate was referring to arrival at the death scene, for bodies that had been lying for a while so lividity could form. That is why they should be able to spot the discolouration when examining the body.

As the gas chambers or gas vans were cleared, some witnesses did mention seeing the colours associated with cyanide or CO poisoning. Others did not. That is consistent with its occasional, not very distinct appearance in the period of 6 to 12 hours before lividity can fully settle and become obvious.
Mr Berg is not wrong you are. Even despite the wildest times for disposal, there is a while, more than long enough for these corpses lying around. Whether they are red for some by inflammation or red by lividity, there would be sufficient numbers for this to have been a dominant feature in the testimony. The fact that it was not means they are lying. The liewitnesses have fallen flat on their faces. The reports of slight discolouration is not good enough.
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Re: AUTOPSIES are the well-kept secret that destroys the Holocaust HOAX!

Post by Nessie » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:43 am

NSDAP wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:22 am
Nessie wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:58 am


The medical evidence is Berg is wrong. There would not be common and obvious skin discolouration from lividity after 30 minutes when the gas chamber doors were opened. He made a mistake thinking coroners see people immediately after death. They do not. The immediate was referring to arrival at the death scene, for bodies that had been lying for a while so lividity could form. That is why they should be able to spot the discolouration when examining the body.

As the gas chambers or gas vans were cleared, some witnesses did mention seeing the colours associated with cyanide or CO poisoning. Others did not. That is consistent with its occasional, not very distinct appearance in the period of 6 to 12 hours before lividity can fully settle and become obvious.
Mr Berg is not wrong you are. Even despite the wildest times for disposal, there is a while, more than long enough for these corpses lying around. Whether they are red for some by inflammation or red by lividity, there would be sufficient numbers for this to have been a dominant feature in the testimony. The fact that it was not means they are lying. The liewitnesses have fallen flat on their faces. The reports of slight discolouration is not good enough.
The medical evidence shows it is not common or obvious till many hours after death, assuming the body is not moved. Moving bodies out of gas chambers starting 30 minutes after death to immediate burial or cremation is why few signs of discolouration were noticed.

The witnesses have given evidence consistent with the medical evidence. That backs them up as telling the truth.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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