Sefton Delmer was born and educated in Berlin, Germany and self-identified as ‘Jewish’.
Loog wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:33 am
What was the motive for the [Allies] to destroy and conceal all evidence of mass migration to the East?
What was the motive for Allied governments to do so, when they'd already won the war?
German was his mother-tongue and he spoke English with a slight German accent.
When Stafford Cripps discovered the deceitful, immoral, dishonourable, destructive nature of the black-art psychological operations Delmer was perpetrating, he wrote to Anthony Eden, then Foreign Secretary saying: "If this is the sort of thing that is needed to win the war then I'd rather lose it."
Chaim Weizmann wrote:
Sefton Delmer admitted that his mission was to discredit the Germans in the eyes of the whole world with atrocity propaganda.
"We are not afraid to confess that this war is our war and that it is waged for the liberation of Jewry...
Stronger than all fronts together is our front, that of Jewry.
We are not only giving this war our financial support on which the entire war production is based, we are not only providing our full propaganda power which is the moral energy that keeps this war going.
The guarantee of victory is predominantly based on weakening the enemy forces, on destroying them in their own country, within the resistance.
And we are the Trojan horses in the enemy's fortress.
Thousands of Jews living in Europe constitute the principal factor in the destruction of our enemy. There, our front is a fact and the most valuable aid for victory."
The Jewish involvement in orchestrating atrocity propaganda isn't a topic that historians can freely and openly discuss. It never has been.
The Americans had their Jewish-led and operated psyops agents also. Where do you think the shrunken heads came from?
Certain files are still off-limits and protected under official-secrets acts LONG after that should have expired.
The question of logistics for forward transports from places like Treblinka — as H-believers have argued — is a pertinent one and needs
to be answered. Sure! I have no dispute with that. Of course
that needs to be also researched and explained for an accurate and impartial 'history'. Absolutely!
But that presupposes that such research is permissable and encouraged. It is not. In reality, the situation is the exact opposite. Such research is considered 'anti-semitic' and is criminalised.
Has LOOG forgotten that?
Asking amateurs for the logistics presupposes that
i.) ALL the information is easily available and that
ii.) approaching and sifting the available information is permissable.
But we all know that is NOT how it is.
So the problem with h-believer's — and all the court historians' — argument seems to me to be that in both points that is NOT the case and NEVER EVER
HAS BEEN the case.
Ignoring this aspect seems to me to be the real stupidity
How can you forget this or ignore this??
• Didn't you know what happened to investigators and witnesses such as Rassinier, Stäglich, Christopherson, Lüftl, Zündel, Faurisson, Hayward, Rocques, Reynouard, Rudolf, Haverbäck, Stolz, etc., etc., etc?
• Aren't you aware that certain known files are still off-limits in Britain and Russia??
• Did you forget the allegations from German speakers that translations of show-trial transcripts were redacted?
• Have you forgotten the admissions of psy-ops people like Sefton Delmer?
Who knows what other unknown documentation is off-limits or was deliberately destroyed?
SUMMARY of the above:
1. Let's get ALL the known documentation freely and easily accessible FIRST!!
2. Then SECOND let's get ALL 'secret' files and documents (or records of their destruction) relating to psy-operations, forgeries, coerced testimonies, redacted interrogations and any and ALL deliberate deceits ADMITTED and out in the public domain.
3. Then THIRD let's stop demonising investigation (and persecuting and punishing investigators) as 'hate speech' or as 'anti-semitism' or as 'holocaust denial'!!!
THEN, we can have a proper investigation on a level playing field.
But its still the exact opposite.
• The files are still off-limits.
• The criminalisation of questioning this aspect of WW2 is becoming increasingly and more-widely protected with 'thought-crime' legislation.
• The mass-media and film industry continue to spread distorted, emotionally manipulative, pseudo-historical propaganda dramatisations for mass-consumption.
• There is STILL no official admission even of the known cases of forgeries, psy-ops, coerced testimony, destroyed records, etc
• Anyone who questions ANY aspect of this compulsory belief-system is ostracised and demonised with damaging smears.
. . . . . . .
I think people here have a tendency to become too fixated in arguing rigidly and aggressively over the small details.
The bigger picture is as I have described above, and thus nobody
with absolutely certainty what happened. And I think that has been intentionally engineered to be like that.
As someone who is agnostic on the actuality and/or scale of the mass-gassings allegation, I think everyone on BOTH SIDES of the debate needs to acknowledge their own ultimate unknowingness, FIRST.
That would go a long way to calming the conversation down a few decibels.
And SECOND let's be honest about the fact that what is currently passed off as a sacrosanct and overwhelmingly substantiated 'reality' is definitely NOT that, but has become more like a religious belief system.
As Michael Hoffman pointed out, people who don't believe in the New Testament as accurate history are not insulted and persecuted as 'resurrection deniers'
or as 'anti-Christians'
or as some form of cultist degenerate.
The fact that anyone who even mildly questions, or even slightly steps out of the permitted areas of debate, is so demonised, demonstrates that we are NOT just dealing with historical fact here but are ALSO stepping into an irrational and emotionally loaded mine-field. Let's not forget that either.