Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:So how old are you really, dumbo? How far down do I have to go just to talk to you? Did you pass Kindergarden?
The 10-cubic-meter gas chambers were "filled" with objects that inevitably "absorbed" some of the cyanide. Too hard to undewrstand?
If a supply air duct brings a cyanide-air mixture to a far corner of a long gas chamber, there is no absorption of cyanide before the gas is introduced into the chamber at that point. Can you possibly understand that, dumbo? So how old are you?
What are the graphs of (where were the probes)? Is it the 4 corners and center (or approximately thereabouts)?
The room was 10 m^3 apparently. What size can of Zyklon was used?
What size blower?
I only brought up the sorption because RTG had made a big deal about that - about a month ago. I figured they might or might not had actually done the tests with something in the chamber. If they had wanted their graphs to look much better, they wouldn't have done that. But apparently they did and therefore there WAS sorption - contrary to my and RTG's disagreement on that. This has nothing to do with OUR dispersion disagreement though.
I called you dumbo because you called me "brain dead".
I hope you realize that we are discussing the miscibility of HCN with your fan arrangement - not that you could blow concentrations around throughout the room. I'm glad you didn't take issue with my shot example - because I only used that example to be clear. The shot example is of course TOTALLY different than the highly mixable HCN with air. The question is how mixable?
If you blew a high concentration very quickly down the room, it would "pile up" at the far corner. This is what your graph shows. The ends of the room have pile-ups that pile-up and bounce around and take awhile to settle into the center. This takes about an hour in your graph BUT one can see that the center "hits" an appropriate concentration after about 1/2 hour. The question is if a larger fan would achieve a quicker miscibility. THAT is the issue. Or would one just get higher pile-ups?
You might or might not be correct with what you are saying. I'd like to see some sort of proof in the form of empirical data. As it is, I'm going by what that graph says. It'd still take about 1/2 an hour to reach killing concentrations throughout the room.
EDIT: BTW, w.r.t. the sorption deal: the graph settles into an average of about 5 g/m^3 in a 10 m^3 room. With no sorption that would mean a 50g dose was used. The sorption probably took about half and so it was probably a dose of a 100g can.
EDIT 2: It is as if I
am talking to the kindergartner here. Berg can't even read his own graphs.