NAFCASH Challenge for Nessie

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Re: Treblinka (alleged) revolt.

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Nessie is ignoring the most important fact of all:

No graves = no Treblinka holocaust

Poor Nessie.

:lol:

Anyone who knows anything about Treblinka II knows that not one grave, mass or otherwise, has ever been located / proven to exist within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp - NOT ONE!

The simple truth is; the largest of the four extant so-called “huge mass graves” ever located / proven to exist at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor or Treblinka II - in which actual, verified human remains have literally / truly been physically unearthed / tangibly located by archaeologists / forensic investigators - by means of bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science - contains the remains of only six bodies. And all four of those so-called “huge mass graves” were uncovered at Sobibor and contain a grand total of ten skeletons.

In fact - to date, it can still be categorically stated that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have never located / proven the existence of even one mass grave at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor or Treblinka II that contains so-much-as - 1 / 1,000 of 1% - of the alleged remains - NOT ONE!
Last edited by Shelby on Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"They [the claimed / alleged / insinuated "huge mass graves" of Treblinka II] have not disappeared... Sufficient examination of those sites by archaeologists proves that... Staffs Uni have found traces of graves, [at Treblinka II] one with a sloping edge... The original rectangular pits are gone... We know that from... digs and gpr that have found underground disturbances over the area where the original mass graves were... The massive pits dug at TII to bury the dead. Sizes and numbers vary depending on the witness... it has been proven TII has mass graves filled with corpses by the Nazis. Her [Caroline Sturdy Colls] own gpr survey... evidences the witness description of the mass graves being dug up." - Nessie

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Re: NAFCASH Challenge for Nessie

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No more answers until you apologise for your rudeness.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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Re: NAFCASH Challenge for Nessie

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Says the lying coward who has proven he is no match for his intellectual superior and master Greg Gerdes.
"They [the claimed / alleged / insinuated "huge mass graves" of Treblinka II] have not disappeared... Sufficient examination of those sites by archaeologists proves that... Staffs Uni have found traces of graves, [at Treblinka II] one with a sloping edge... The original rectangular pits are gone... We know that from... digs and gpr that have found underground disturbances over the area where the original mass graves were... The massive pits dug at TII to bury the dead. Sizes and numbers vary depending on the witness... it has been proven TII has mass graves filled with corpses by the Nazis. Her [Caroline Sturdy Colls] own gpr survey... evidences the witness description of the mass graves being dug up." - Nessie

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Re: NAFCASH Challenge for Nessie

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Last updated on 8 / 30 / 15.
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The National Association of Forensic Historians TM

http://nafcash.com/

will also remit up to - $10,000.00 - in reward money for the correct answers to these

48 Definitive Questions About The 75 - Claimed / Alleged / Insinuated - Extant Graves

(FYI - The definition of - extant grave - used for this questionnaire is: An existing place of burial that currently contains human remains.)

Note: Parts two, three, four and five - may be answered separately - each for twenty five percent of the reward amount.

To begin the incredibly easy process of laying claim to this reward (and the reward for part six); potential claimants must first contact The N.A.F.H. and submit their answers to the following preliminary questions:


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Part One - Preliminary Questions:

A - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; the WW II era event that is commonly referred to as - THE KATYN MASSACRE - most certainly happened - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

B - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during WW II, Germany actually constructed and administered a camp called - AUSCHWITZ - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

C - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during WW II, Germany actually constructed and administered a camp called - MAJDANEK - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

D - Has it been alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, Germany used "resettlement to the east" as a euphemism for transiting jews to the so-called "top secret" - PURE EXTERMINATION CAMPS - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

E - Has it been alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the so-called "pure extermination camps" were - THE END OF THE LINE - for virtually everyone transited to those camps - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

F - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; a myriad number of intelligent, logical and well educated people have, in their - SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH - come to the rational and sincere conclusion that National Socialist Germany"s "Final Solution to the jewish problem" was in fact a forced emigration / labor program - rather than the "extermination pogrom" alleged in orthodox historiography - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

G - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; in numerous countries of the world, laws have been enacted that criminalize publicly expressing - SKEPTICISM - of the orthodox version of the holocaust - thus protecting it by force of law - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

H - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; investigators have used - MATHEMATICAL MODELING - to determine if the mass burial claims espoused in orthodox historiography about Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II - are even physically possible - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

I - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; despite the passage of decades, legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators can still locate extant WW II era graves with the use of modern forensic science and - GEOPHYSICS - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

J - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of at least one extant grave within each of the so-called - AKTION REINHARDT CAMPS - and Chelmno - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

K - Is it reasonable to - DOUBT - that ALL 75 of the separate - claimed / alleged / insinuated - extant graves at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II - identified by The N.A.F.H. - actually exist AND currently contain human remains- Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: No.

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Part Two - Belzec Questions - (What do we know for certain about the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated “huge mass graves” at Belzec?)

#1 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during WW II, Germany actually constructed and administered a camp called Belzec - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

#2 - Has it ever been claimed / alleged / insinuated in orthodox historiography and/or the media - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of numerous extant mass graves within the boundary of the Belzec camp - using modern geophysical / forensic science technology - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#3 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; the actual number of mass graves dug by the Germans within the boundary of the Belzec camp - during the time that they administered the camp - is no more than and no less than: __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#4 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during the period of time in which the Germans are said to have administered the Belzec camp - at least one human corpse was actually buried in each one of the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Belzec - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#5 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; as of - 8 / 15 / 15 - no more than and no less than __one__ of the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Belzec - have actually been located / proven to exist - in which legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators have, via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented methodology - literally unearthed - scientifically verified human remains.

Nessie's answer: One.

#6 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of at least one complete human skeleton - via actual excavation - in at least one of the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Belzec - ??

Nessie's answer: False.

#7 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; (measured from ground level) the deepest of the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Belzec - is: grave # __?__ with a depth of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answers: ??

#8 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; the most voluminous of the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Belzec - is: grave # __?__ with a volume of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answers: ??

#9 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Belzec, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located the remains of at least 19 people - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#10 - As determined by legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented on-site archaeology / forensic science, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; out of the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Belzec, the one which has the most conclusively documented scientifically verified human remains currently in it - is: grave # __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#11 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Belzec, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located human remains - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#12 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; during WW II, Germany actually transited jews to labor camps / ghettos - that were located east of the Belzec camp - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

* The 33 so-called “huge mass graves” of Belzec (#1/1 though #33/33 of the alleged 75) are shown and numbered in the maps on pages 117 & 118 in this link here:

http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=9 (Click on the PDF Download Option.)

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Part Three - Chelmno Questions - (What do we know for certain about the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated “huge mass graves” at Chelmno?)

#13 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during WW II, Germany actually constructed and administered a camp called Chelmno - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

#14 - Has it ever been claimed / alleged / insinuated in orthodox historiography and/or the media - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of numerous extant mass graves within the boundary of the Chelmno camp - using modern geophysical / forensic science technology - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#15 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; the actual number of mass graves dug by the Germans within the boundary of the Chelmno camp - during the time that they administered the camp - is no more than and no less than: __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#16 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during the period of time in which the Germans are said to have administered the Chelmno camp - at least one human corpse was actually buried in each one of the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Chelmno - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#17 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; as of - 8 / 15 / 15 - no more than and no less than __?__ of the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Chelmno - have actually been located / proven to exist - in which legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators have, via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented emethodology - literally unearthed - scientifically verified human remains.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#18 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of at least one complete human skeleton - via actual excavation - in at least one of the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Chelmno - ??

Nessie's - True. - or - False. - answer: ??

#19 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; (measured from ground level) the deepest of the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Chelmno - is: grave # __?__ with a depth of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answesr: ??

#20 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; the most voluminous of the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Chelmno - is: grave # __?__ with a volume of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answesr: ??

#21 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Chelmno, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located the remains of at least 19 people - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#22 - As determined by legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented on-site archaeology / forensic science, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; out of the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Chelmno, the one which has the most conclusively documented scientifically verified human remains currently in it - is: grave # __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#23 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Chelmno, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located human remains - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#24 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; during WW II, Germany actually transited jews to labor camps / ghettos - that were located east of the Chelmno camp - ??

Nessie's - True. - or - False. - answer: ??

* The 15 so-called “huge mass graves” of Chelmno (#1/34 though #15/48 of the alleged 75) are shown in the map on page 167 in this link here:

http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=23 (Click on the PDF Download Option. Contact The N.A.F.H. for its grave numbering system for this camp.)

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Part Four - Sobibor Questions - (What do we know for certain about the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated “huge mass graves” at Sobibor?)

#25 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during WW II, Germany actually constructed and administered a camp called Sobibor - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

#26 - Has it ever been claimed / alleged / insinuated in orthodox historiography and/or the media - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of numerous extant mass graves within the boundary of the Sobibor camp - using modern geophysical / forensic science technology - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#27 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; the actual number of mass graves dug by the Germans within the boundary of the Sobibor camp - during the time that they administered the camp - is no more than and no less than: __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#28 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during the period of time in which the Germans are said to have administered the Sobibor camp - at least one human corpse was actually buried in each one of the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#29 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; as of - 8 / 15 / 15 - no more than and no less than __one__ of the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor - have actually been located / proven to exist - in which legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators have, via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented methodology - literally unearthed - scientifically verified human remains.

Nessie's answer: One.

#30 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of at least one complete human skeleton - via actual excavation - in at least one of the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor - ??

Nessie's answer: False.

#31 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; (measured from ground level) the deepest of the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor - is: grave # __?__ with a depth of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answers: ??

#32 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; the most voluminous of the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor - is: grave # __?__ with a volume of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answers: ??

#33 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Sobibor, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located the remains of at least 19 people - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#34 - As determined by legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented on-site archaeology / forensic science, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; out of the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor, the one which has the most conclusively documented scientifically verified human remains currently in it - is: grave # __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#35 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Sobibor, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located human remains - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#36 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; during WW II, Germany actually transited jews to labor camps / ghettos - that were located east of the Sobibor camp - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

* The 16 so-called “huge mass graves” of Sobibor (#1/49 though #16/64 of the alleged 75) are shown in the map on page 7 in this link here:

http://sobibor.info.pl/wp-content/uploa ... 2-2013.pdf (Contact The N.A.F.H. for its grave numbering system for this camp.)

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Part Five - Treblinka II Questions - (What do we know for certain about the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated “huge mass graves” at Treblinka II?)

#37 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during WW II, Germany actually constructed and administered a camp called Treblinka II - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

#38 - Has it ever been claimed / alleged / insinuated in orthodox historiography and/or the media - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of numerous extant mass graves within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp - using modern geophysical / forensic science technology - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#39 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; the actual number of mass graves dug by the Germans within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp - during the time that they administered the camp - is no more than and no less than: __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#40 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during the period of time in which the Germans are said to have administered the Treblinka II camp - at least one human corpse was actually buried in each one of the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Treblinka II - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#41 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; as of - 8 / 15 / 15 - no more than and no less than __one__ of the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Treblinka II - have actually been located / proven to exist - in which legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators have, via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented methodology - literally unearthed - scientifically verified human remains.

Nessie's answer: One.

#42 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of at least one complete human skeleton - via actual excavation - in at least one of the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Treblinka II - ??

Nessie's - True. - or - False. - answer: ??

#43 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; (measured from ground level) the deepest of the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Treblinka II - is: grave # __?__ with a depth of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answers: ??

#44 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; the most voluminous of the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Treblinka II - is: grave # __?__ with a volume of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answers: ??

#45 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Treblinka II, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located the remains of at least 19 people - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#46 - As determined by legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented on-site archaeology / forensic science, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; out of the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Treblinka II, the one which has the most conclusively documented scientifically verified human remains currently in it - is: grave # __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#47 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Treblinka II, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located human remains - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

WW II, Germany actually transited jews to labor camps / ghettos - that were located east of the Treblinka camps - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

* The 11 so-called “huge mass graves” of Treblinka II (#1/65 though #11/75 of the alleged 75) are shown in the map in this link here:

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/5 ... ka_464.gif (Contact The N.A.F.H. for its grave numbering system for this camp.)

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Note: The amount of reward money remitted for answering parts two, three, four and five - will depend entirely upon the percentage of true-believers listed below who agree that all submitted answers are in fact correct. The N.A.F.H. has no say in what is deemed a “correct” answer - that is entirely up to the shameless prevaricators who peddle and/or profit from this transparent charade.

List A: Diane Ackerman, Paul Bauman, Judith Tydor Baumel, Alex Bay, Hartmut Berghoff, Peter Black, Sara Bloomfield, Stacy Boman, David Cesarani, Caroline Sturdy Colls, Ed Corrigan, Martin Dean, Alan Dershowitz, Patrick Desbois, Jim Dominic, Deborah Dwork, Leonard Felson, Abraham Foxman, Richard Freund, Isaac Gilead, David Gluck, Juliet Golden, Mieczyslaw Gora, David Green, Alex Grobman, Yoram Haimi, Bonnie Harris, Alan Hart, Alan Heath, Michelle Hilling, Gary Hochman, Alex Jones, Penn Jillete, Ephraim Kaye, Andrzej Kola, Walter Laqueur, Deborah Lipstadt, Daniel Loxton, Wojciech Mazurek, Geoffrey Megargee, Danny Mittleman, Gary North, Lucja Nowak, Robin O'Neil, Avi Patt, Stephen Potyondi, James Randi, Karolina Ratajczak, Rafal Ratajczak, Philip Reeder, William Rutherford, Sarah Rutmanm, Paul Shapiro, Michael Shermer, Steve Shives, Ivar Schute, Claudia Theune, Michael Tregenza.

List B: Mikkel Andersson, Philip Blood, Christopher Browning, Mike Curtis, Martin Davidson, Martin Dean, Andrzej Gawryszewski, Michael Gelb, Richard Green, Patrick Groff, Albrecht Kolthoff, Jurgen Langowski, Peter Laponder, Ralf Loserth, Jamie McCarthy, Gord McFee, Christian Mentel, Michael Peters, Antony Polonsky, David Rich, Sara Salzman, Andrea Simon, Steve Tyas, Leonid Tyorushkin, David Woolfe, John Zimmerman.

List C: Santiago Alvarez, David Cole/Stein, Thomas Dalton, Jonathan Harrison, David Irving, Thomas Kues, Carmelo Lisciotto, Andrew Mathis, Roberto Muehlenkamp, Jason Myers, Sergey Romanov, Nick Terry, Chris Webb, Mark Weber.

List D: These - EDITORS & EDITORIAL BOARD MEMBERS - (scroll down to the bottom of the page) for the Journal of Conflict Archaeology.

http://www.maneyonline.com/loi/jca

List E: These - EMPLOYEES - of Archaeology Magazine.

http://www.archaeology.org/about-us

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The list of those true believers listed above who agree that Nessie's answers to Part Two are correct: :roll:

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The list of those true believers listed above who agree that Nessie's answers to Part Three are correct: :roll:

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The list of those true believers listed above who agree that Nessie's answers to Part Four are correct: :roll:

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The list of those true believers listed above who agree that Nessie's answers to Part Five are correct: :roll:

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Part Six - Forensic Questions - (Can it be proven in a U.S. court of law that the 75 claimed / alleged / insinuated “huge mass graves” are not in fact a criminal hoax?)

Note: There is a separate challenge / additional reward amount of up to - $7,500.00 - that is being offered to anyone who can successfully defend their answers to the following questions in a public defense / legal showdown against Greg Gerdes - President of The N.A.F.H. (Contact The N.A.F.H. for details - if you dare.)

L - FILL IN THE BLANKS: As of this day: _08_ / _12_ / _15_ (mm / dd / yy) - I, __Nessie__ (name), am ready, willing and able to demonstrate conclusively - in a public debate against Greg Gerdes - that; the MAXIMUM number of untrue statements of fact that I can identify / prove - with the same standard of proof applied in U.S. criminal courts - that currently exist on The N.A.F.H. website (with a "last updated" date of: _12_ / _08_ / _15_) - is no less than: __FIVE__.

Nessie's - FILL IN THE BLANK - answers: See above.

M - FILL IN THE BLANKS: As of this day: _8_ / _13_ / _15_ (mm / dd / yy) - my answer to The N.A.F.H. $75,000.00 question - is no more than and no less than: __One__.

Nessie's - FILL IN THE BLANK - answers: See above.

N - Can you prove - with the same standard of proof applied in U.S. criminal courts - that; ALL 75 of the separate - claimed / alleged / insinuated - extant graves at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II - identified by The N.A.F.H. - actually exist AND currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: No.

O - Can you prove - with the same standard of proof applied in U.S. criminal courts - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of at least one of the 75 separate - claimed / alleged / insinuated - extant graves in question, within the boundaries of each one of the four camps in question - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

P - FILL IN THE BLANKS: As of this day: _?_ / _?_ / _?_ (mm / dd / yy) - I, __?__ (name), am able to demonstrate conclusively that; of the 75 separate - claimed / alleged / insinuated - extant graves at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II - identified by The N.A.F.H. - the PRECISE number that I can prove - with the same standard of proof applied in U.S. criminal courts - that actually exist AND currently contain human remains - is no more than and no less than: __?__ in Belzec, no more than and no less than: __?__ in Chelmno, no more than and no less than: __?__ in Sobibor and no more than and no less than: __?__ in Treblinka II.

Nessie's - FILL IN THE BLANK - answers: ???

Q - FILL IN THE BLANKS: As of this day: _?_ / _?_ / _?_ (mm / dd / yy) - I, __?__ (name), am ready, willing and able to promptly complete the simple steps necessary to engage in a public debate against Greg Gerdes - so as to demonstrate conclusively that; of the 75 separate - claimed / alleged / insinuated - extant graves at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II - identified by The N.A.F.H. - the MAXIMUM number that I can prove - with the same standard of proof applied in U.S. criminal courts - that actually exist AND currently contain human remains - is no less than: __?__. Therefore; I shall initiate the process by submitting my answers to the preliminary questions to The N.A.F.H. (and thus set the questionnaire) - no later than: 9 / 14 / 15.

Nessie's - FILL IN THE BLANK - answers: ???

R - FILL IN THE BLANKS: Have you ever publicly claimed / alleged / insinuated that The N.A.F.H. is unable and/or unwilling to make good on its reward offers - Yes. - or - No. - __??__. If your answer was - Yes. - then; do you have the courage to accept The N.A.F.H. wager on it's ability to prove that it has the ways and means to make good on a promised reward payment - Yes. - or - No. - __??__. If your answer was - Yes. - then; do you have the integrity and character to defend your defamatory remarks by accepting the wager no later than - 9 / 14 / 15 - Yes. - or - No. - __??__.

Nessie's - FILL IN THE BLANK - answers: ???

S - If you dare attempt to publicly defend your answers to part six - and subsequently disagree with any decision made by Greg Gerdes about the remittance of reward monies; do you have the requisite courage, intelligence and fortitude to take legal action - and face Greg Gerdes in a U.S. court of law - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

* (Is there not a single true-believer on this entire planet who has the courage to defend their self-deceiving belief in this transparent charade - from a witness stand?)
Last edited by Shelby on Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"They [the claimed / alleged / insinuated "huge mass graves" of Treblinka II] have not disappeared... Sufficient examination of those sites by archaeologists proves that... Staffs Uni have found traces of graves, [at Treblinka II] one with a sloping edge... The original rectangular pits are gone... We know that from... digs and gpr that have found underground disturbances over the area where the original mass graves were... The massive pits dug at TII to bury the dead. Sizes and numbers vary depending on the witness... it has been proven TII has mass graves filled with corpses by the Nazis. Her [Caroline Sturdy Colls] own gpr survey... evidences the witness description of the mass graves being dug up." - Nessie

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Measuring a mass grave on the number of skeletons is a dodge to avoid what the Nazis did to the vast majority of human remains at the sites. Witnesses speak to mass exhumation and cremations, which is backed up by what studies have found at the sites; ash, cremains, larger bones and fatty deposits.

That is why measuring and defining the mass graves of TII, Sobibor, Belzec and Chelmno as if they were like those found at Katyn or Villeneuve-Loubet is Gerdes (who has never excavated at any of the sites) thinking he is being clever, but he is showing a great deal of stupidity.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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39 unanswered questions / proofs that Greg Gerdes owns Nessie.

On display for all to see.

:lol:

Poor Nessie.
Last edited by Shelby on Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"They [the claimed / alleged / insinuated "huge mass graves" of Treblinka II] have not disappeared... Sufficient examination of those sites by archaeologists proves that... Staffs Uni have found traces of graves, [at Treblinka II] one with a sloping edge... The original rectangular pits are gone... We know that from... digs and gpr that have found underground disturbances over the area where the original mass graves were... The massive pits dug at TII to bury the dead. Sizes and numbers vary depending on the witness... it has been proven TII has mass graves filled with corpses by the Nazis. Her [Caroline Sturdy Colls] own gpr survey... evidences the witness description of the mass graves being dug up." - Nessie

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Nessie is ignoring the most important fact of all:

No graves = no Treblinka holocaust

Poor Nessie.

:lol:
Last edited by Shelby on Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"They [the claimed / alleged / insinuated "huge mass graves" of Treblinka II] have not disappeared... Sufficient examination of those sites by archaeologists proves that... Staffs Uni have found traces of graves, [at Treblinka II] one with a sloping edge... The original rectangular pits are gone... We know that from... digs and gpr that have found underground disturbances over the area where the original mass graves were... The massive pits dug at TII to bury the dead. Sizes and numbers vary depending on the witness... it has been proven TII has mass graves filled with corpses by the Nazis. Her [Caroline Sturdy Colls] own gpr survey... evidences the witness description of the mass graves being dug up." - Nessie

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That there are now 39 unanswered questions when the challenge on page 1 of this thread had 36 questions in total is evidence Gerdes does not want the challenge to be met. So for it to continue the following is required

1 - only once Shelby has apologised for his rudeness, the 39 questions will be answered. Any further rudeness will further delay the answers.

2 - Any more additional questions beyond the present 39 will not be answered.

3 - Gerdes has to evidence his forensic qualifications.

4 - Gerdes needs to state if he has conducted any excavations at TII, Sobibor, Chelmno and Belzec, yes or no.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
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Human remains, cremains and ash mixed in with sand and soil and the site of TII = mass grave.
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Last updated on 9 / 1 / 15.
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The National Association of Forensic Historians TM

http://nafcash.com/

will also remit up to - $10,000.00 - in reward money for the correct answers to these

48 Definitive Questions About The 75 - Claimed / Alleged / Insinuated - Extant Graves

(FYI - The definition of - extant grave - used for this questionnaire is: An existing place of burial that currently contains human remains.)

Note: Parts two, three, four and five - may be answered separately - each for twenty five percent of the reward amount.

To begin the incredibly easy process of laying claim to this reward (and the reward for part six); potential claimants must first contact The N.A.F.H. and submit their answers to the following preliminary questions:


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Part One - Preliminary Questions:

A - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; the WW II era event that is commonly referred to as - THE KATYN MASSACRE - most certainly happened - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

B - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during WW II, Germany actually constructed and administered a camp called - AUSCHWITZ - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

C - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during WW II, Germany actually constructed and administered a camp called - MAJDANEK - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

D - Has it been alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, Germany used "resettlement to the east" as a euphemism for transiting jews to the so-called "top secret" - PURE EXTERMINATION CAMPS - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

E - Has it been alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the so-called "pure extermination camps" were - THE END OF THE LINE - for virtually everyone transited to those camps - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

F - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; a myriad number of intelligent, logical and well educated people have, in their - SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH - come to the rational and sincere conclusion that National Socialist Germany"s "Final Solution to the jewish problem" was in fact a forced emigration / labor program - rather than the "extermination pogrom" alleged in orthodox historiography - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

G - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; in numerous countries of the world, laws have been enacted that criminalize publicly expressing - SKEPTICISM - of the orthodox version of the holocaust - thus protecting it by force of law - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

H - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; investigators have used - MATHEMATICAL MODELING - to determine if the mass burial claims espoused in orthodox historiography about Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II - are even physically possible - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

I - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; despite the passage of decades, legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators can still locate extant WW II era graves with the use of modern forensic science and - GEOPHYSICS - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

J - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of at least one extant grave within each of the so-called - AKTION REINHARDT CAMPS - and Chelmno - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

K - Is it reasonable to - DOUBT - that ALL 75 of the separate - claimed / alleged / insinuated - extant graves at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II - identified by The N.A.F.H. - actually exist AND currently contain human remains- Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: No.

L - Can you prove - with the same standard of proof applied in U.S. - CRIMINAL COURTS - that; ALL 75 of the separate - claimed / alleged / insinuated - extant graves at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II - identified by The N.A.F.H. - actually exist AND currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: No.

* * * * *

Part Two - Belzec Questions - (What do we know for certain about the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated “huge mass graves” at Belzec?)

#1 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during WW II, Germany actually constructed and administered a camp called Belzec - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

#2 - Has it ever been claimed / alleged / insinuated in orthodox historiography and/or the media - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of numerous extant mass graves within the boundary of the Belzec camp - using modern geophysical / forensic science technology - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#3 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; the actual number of mass graves dug by the Germans within the boundary of the Belzec camp - during the time that they administered the camp - is no more than and no less than: __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#4 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during the period of time in which the Germans are said to have administered the Belzec camp - at least one human corpse was actually buried in each one of the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Belzec - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#5 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; as of - 8 / 15 / 15 - no more than and no less than __one__ of the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Belzec - have actually been located / proven to exist - in which legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators have, via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented methodology - literally unearthed - scientifically verified human remains.

Nessie's answer: One.

#6 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of at least one complete human skeleton - via actual excavation - in at least one of the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Belzec - ??

Nessie's answer: False.

#7 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; (measured from ground level) the deepest of the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Belzec - is: grave # __?__ with a depth of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answers: ??

#8 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; the most voluminous of the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Belzec - is: grave # __?__ with a volume of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answers: ??

#9 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Belzec, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located the remains of at least 19 people - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#10 - As determined by legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented on-site archaeology / forensic science, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; out of the 33 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Belzec, the one which has the most conclusively documented scientifically verified human remains currently in it - is: grave # __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#11 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Belzec, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located human remains - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#12 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; during WW II, Germany actually transited jews to labor camps / ghettos - that were located east of the Belzec camp - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

* The 33 so-called “huge mass graves” of Belzec (#1/1 though #33/33 of the alleged 75) are shown and numbered in the maps on pages 117 & 118 in this link here:

http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=9 (Click on the PDF Download Option.)

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Part Three - Chelmno Questions - (What do we know for certain about the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated “huge mass graves” at Chelmno?)

#13 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during WW II, Germany actually constructed and administered a camp called Chelmno - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

#14 - Has it ever been claimed / alleged / insinuated in orthodox historiography and/or the media - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of numerous extant mass graves within the boundary of the Chelmno camp - using modern geophysical / forensic science technology - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#15 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; the actual number of mass graves dug by the Germans within the boundary of the Chelmno camp - during the time that they administered the camp - is no more than and no less than: __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#16 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during the period of time in which the Germans are said to have administered the Chelmno camp - at least one human corpse was actually buried in each one of the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Chelmno - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#17 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; as of - 8 / 15 / 15 - no more than and no less than __?__ of the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Chelmno - have actually been located / proven to exist - in which legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators have, via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented emethodology - literally unearthed - scientifically verified human remains.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#18 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of at least one complete human skeleton - via actual excavation - in at least one of the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Chelmno - ??

Nessie's - True. - or - False. - answer: ??

#19 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; (measured from ground level) the deepest of the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Chelmno - is: grave # __?__ with a depth of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answesr: ??

#20 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; the most voluminous of the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Chelmno - is: grave # __?__ with a volume of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answesr: ??

#21 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Chelmno, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located the remains of at least 19 people - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#22 - As determined by legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented on-site archaeology / forensic science, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; out of the 15 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Chelmno, the one which has the most conclusively documented scientifically verified human remains currently in it - is: grave # __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#23 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Chelmno, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located human remains - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#24 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; during WW II, Germany actually transited jews to labor camps / ghettos - that were located east of the Chelmno camp - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

* The 15 so-called “huge mass graves” of Chelmno (#1/34 though #15/48 of the alleged 75) are shown in the map on page 167 in this link here:

http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=23 (Click on the PDF Download Option. Contact The N.A.F.H. for its grave numbering system for this camp.)

* * * * *

Part Four - Sobibor Questions - (What do we know for certain about the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated “huge mass graves” at Sobibor?)

#25 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during WW II, Germany actually constructed and administered a camp called Sobibor - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

#26 - Has it ever been claimed / alleged / insinuated in orthodox historiography and/or the media - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of numerous extant mass graves within the boundary of the Sobibor camp - using modern geophysical / forensic science technology - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#27 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; the actual number of mass graves dug by the Germans within the boundary of the Sobibor camp - during the time that they administered the camp - is no more than and no less than: __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#28 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during the period of time in which the Germans are said to have administered the Sobibor camp - at least one human corpse was actually buried in each one of the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#29 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; as of - 8 / 15 / 15 - no more than and no less than __one__ of the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor - have actually been located / proven to exist - in which legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators have, via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented methodology - literally unearthed - scientifically verified human remains.

Nessie's answer: One.

#30 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of at least one complete human skeleton - via actual excavation - in at least one of the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor - ??

Nessie's answer: False.

#31 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; (measured from ground level) the deepest of the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor - is: grave # __?__ with a depth of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answers: ??

#32 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; the most voluminous of the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor - is: grave # __?__ with a volume of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answers: ??

#33 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Sobibor, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located the remains of at least 19 people - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#34 - As determined by legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented on-site archaeology / forensic science, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; out of the 16 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor, the one which has the most conclusively documented scientifically verified human remains currently in it - is: grave # __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#35 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Sobibor, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located human remains - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#36 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; during WW II, Germany actually transited jews to labor camps / ghettos - that were located east of the Sobibor camp - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

* The 16 so-called “huge mass graves” of Sobibor (#1/49 though #16/64 of the alleged 75) are shown in the map on page 7 in this link here:

http://sobibor.info.pl/wp-content/uploa ... 2-2013.pdf (Contact The N.A.F.H. for its grave numbering system for this camp.)

* * * * *

Part Five - Treblinka II Questions - (What do we know for certain about the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated “huge mass graves” at Treblinka II?)

#37 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during WW II, Germany actually constructed and administered a camp called Treblinka II - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's answer: Yes.

#38 - Has it ever been claimed / alleged / insinuated in orthodox historiography and/or the media - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of numerous extant mass graves within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp - using modern geophysical / forensic science technology - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#39 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; the actual number of mass graves dug by the Germans within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp - during the time that they administered the camp - is no more than and no less than: __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#40 - Is it known - with the utmost certainty - that; during the period of time in which the Germans are said to have administered the Treblinka II camp - at least one human corpse was actually buried in each one of the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Treblinka II - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

#41 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; as of - 8 / 15 / 15 - no more than and no less than __one__ of the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Treblinka II - have actually been located / proven to exist - in which legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators have, via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented methodology - literally unearthed - scientifically verified human remains.

Nessie's answer: One.

#42 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; archaeologists / forensic investigators have located / proven the existence of at least one complete human skeleton - via actual excavation - in at least one of the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Treblinka II - ??

Nessie's - True. - or - False. - answer: ??

#43 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; (measured from ground level) the deepest of the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Treblinka II - is: grave # __?__ with a depth of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answers: ??

#44 - After measurement with verifiably accurate measuring devices and honest techniques, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; the most voluminous of the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Treblinka II - is: grave # __?__ with a volume of __?__.

Nessie's numeric answers: ??

#45 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Treblinka II, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located the remains of at least 19 people - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#46 - As determined by legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented on-site archaeology / forensic science, it is now known - with the utmost certainty - that; out of the 11 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Treblinka II, the one which has the most conclusively documented scientifically verified human remains currently in it - is: grave # __?__.

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#47 - It is known - with the utmost certainty - that; at Treblinka II, archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually - only physically unearthed / tangibly located human remains - in claimed / alleged / insinuated extant grave # __?__. (List all applicable grave numbers.)

Nessie's numeric answer: ?

#48 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; during WW II, Germany actually transited jews to labor camps / ghettos - that were located east of the Treblinka camps - ??

Nessie's answer: True.

* The 11 so-called “huge mass graves” of Treblinka II (#1/65 though #11/75 of the alleged 75) are shown in the map in this link here:

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/5 ... ka_464.gif (Contact The N.A.F.H. for its grave numbering system for this camp.)

* * * * *

Note: The amount of reward money remitted for answering parts two, three, four and five - will depend entirely upon the percentage of true-believers listed below who agree that all submitted answers are in fact correct. The N.A.F.H. has no say in what is deemed a “correct” answer - that is entirely up to the shameless prevaricators who peddle and/or profit from this transparent charade.

List A: Diane Ackerman, Paul Bauman, Judith Tydor Baumel, Alex Bay, Hartmut Berghoff, Peter Black, Sara Bloomfield, Stacy Boman, David Cesarani, Caroline Sturdy Colls, Ed Corrigan, Martin Dean, Alan Dershowitz, Patrick Desbois, Jim Dominic, Deborah Dwork, Leonard Felson, Abraham Foxman, Richard Freund, Isaac Gilead, David Gluck, Juliet Golden, Mieczyslaw Gora, David Green, Alex Grobman, Yoram Haimi, Bonnie Harris, Alan Hart, Alan Heath, Michelle Hilling, Gary Hochman, Alex Jones, Penn Jillete, Ephraim Kaye, Andrzej Kola, Walter Laqueur, Deborah Lipstadt, Daniel Loxton, Wojciech Mazurek, Geoffrey Megargee, Danny Mittleman, Gary North, Lucja Nowak, Robin O'Neil, Avi Patt, Stephen Potyondi, James Randi, Karolina Ratajczak, Rafal Ratajczak, Philip Reeder, William Rutherford, Sarah Rutmanm, Paul Shapiro, Michael Shermer, Steve Shives, Ivar Schute, Claudia Theune, Michael Tregenza.

List B: Mikkel Andersson, Philip Blood, Christopher Browning, Mike Curtis, Martin Davidson, Martin Dean, Andrzej Gawryszewski, Michael Gelb, Richard Green, Patrick Groff, Albrecht Kolthoff, Jurgen Langowski, Peter Laponder, Ralf Loserth, Jamie McCarthy, Gord McFee, Christian Mentel, Michael Peters, Antony Polonsky, David Rich, Sara Salzman, Andrea Simon, Steve Tyas, Leonid Tyorushkin, David Woolfe, John Zimmerman.

List C: Santiago Alvarez, David Cole/Stein, Thomas Dalton, Jonathan Harrison, David Irving, Thomas Kues, Carmelo Lisciotto, Andrew Mathis, Roberto Muehlenkamp, Jason Myers, Sergey Romanov, Nick Terry, Chris Webb, Mark Weber.

List D: These - EDITORS & EDITORIAL BOARD MEMBERS - (scroll down to the bottom of the page) for the Journal of Conflict Archaeology.

http://www.maneyonline.com/loi/jca

List E: These - EMPLOYEES - of Archaeology Magazine.

http://www.archaeology.org/about-us

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The list of those true believers listed above who agree that Nessie's answers to Part Two are correct: :roll:

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The list of those true believers listed above who agree that Nessie's answers to Part Three are correct: :roll:

:lol:

The list of those true believers listed above who agree that Nessie's answers to Part Four are correct: :roll:

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The list of those true believers listed above who agree that Nessie's answers to Part Five are correct: :roll:

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Part Six - Forensic Questions - (Can it be proven in a U.S. court of law that the 75 claimed / alleged / insinuated “huge mass graves” are not in fact a criminal hoax?)

Note: There is a separate challenge / additional reward amount of up to - $7,500.00 - that is being offered to anyone who can successfully defend their answers to the following questions in a public defense / legal showdown against Greg Gerdes - President of The N.A.F.H. (Contact The N.A.F.H. for details - if you dare.)

M - Do you have the requisite courage, intelligence, character and fortitude to engage in a public debate against Greg Gerdes - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

N - FILL IN THE BLANKS: As of - 8 / 15 / 15 - I, __?__ (name), am ready, willing and able to demonstrate conclusively - in a public debate against Greg Gerdes - that; the MAXIMUM number of untrue statements of fact that I can identify / prove - with the same standard of proof applied in U.S. criminal courts - that currently exist on The N.A.F.H. website (with a "last updated" date of: _?_ / _?_ / _?_) - is no less than: __?__. Therefore; I shall initiate the process by contacting The N.A.F.H. - no later than: 9 / 14 / 15.

Nessie's - FILL IN THE BLANK - answers: ???


O - FILL IN THE BLANKS: As of - 8 / 15 / 15 - I, __?__ (name), am ready, willing and able to demonstrate conclusively - in a public debate against Greg Gerdes - that; of the 75 separate - claimed / alleged / insinuated - extant graves at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II - identified by The N.A.F.H. - the PRECISE number that I can prove - with the same standard of proof applied in U.S. criminal courts - that actually exist AND currently contain human remains - is no more than and no less than: __?__ in Belzec, no more than and no less than: __?__ in Chelmno, no more than and no less than: __?__ in Sobibor and no more than and no less than: __?__ in Treblinka II. Therefore; I shall initiate the process by contacting The N.A.F.H. - no later than: 9 / 14 / 15.

Nessie's - FILL IN THE BLANK - answers: ?????

P - FILL IN THE BLANKS: As of - 8 / 15 / 15 - I, __?__ (name), am ready, willing and able to promptly complete the simple steps necessary to engage in a public debate against Greg Gerdes - so as to demonstrate conclusively that; of the 75 separate - claimed / alleged / insinuated - extant graves at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II - identified by The N.A.F.H. - the MAXIMUM number that I can prove - with the same standard of proof applied in U.S. criminal courts - that actually exist AND currently contain human remains - is no less than: __?__. Therefore; I shall initiate the process by submitting my answers to the preliminary questions to The N.A.F.H. (and thus set the questionnaire) - no later than: 9 / 14 / 15.

Nessie's - FILL IN THE BLANK - answers: ??

Q - FILL IN THE BLANKS: Have you ever publicly claimed / alleged / insinuated that The N.A.F.H. is unable and/or unwilling to make good on its reward offers - Yes. - or - No. - __??__. If your answer was - Yes. - then; do you have the courage to accept The N.A.F.H. wager on it's ability to prove that it has the ways and means to make good on a promised reward payment - Yes. - or - No. - __??__. If your answer was - Yes. - then; do you have the integrity and character to defend your defamatory remarks by accepting the wager no later than: 9 / 14 / 15 - Yes. - or - No. - __??__.

Nessie's - FILL IN THE BLANK - answers: ???

R - If you have answered all previous questions in part six - and dare attempt to defend your answers in a public debate against Greg Gerdes - and subsequently disagree with any decision made by Greg Gerdes about the remittance of reward monies; do you have the requisite courage, intelligence, character and fortitude to take legal action - and face Greg Gerdes in a U.S. court of law - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Nessie's - Yes. - or - No. - answer: ??

* (Is there not a single true-believer on this entire planet who has the courage to defend their self-deceiving belief in this transparent charade - from a witness stand?)
Last edited by Shelby on Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:19 pm, edited 2 times in total.
"They [the claimed / alleged / insinuated "huge mass graves" of Treblinka II] have not disappeared... Sufficient examination of those sites by archaeologists proves that... Staffs Uni have found traces of graves, [at Treblinka II] one with a sloping edge... The original rectangular pits are gone... We know that from... digs and gpr that have found underground disturbances over the area where the original mass graves were... The massive pits dug at TII to bury the dead. Sizes and numbers vary depending on the witness... it has been proven TII has mass graves filled with corpses by the Nazis. Her [Caroline Sturdy Colls] own gpr survey... evidences the witness description of the mass graves being dug up." - Nessie

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