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Holocaust Believers / Promoters Are Dangerous

Post by Ante Semitić » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:24 am

AFFIDAVIT
OF
ERNST ZÜNDEL

Court File No. T-567-96
IN THE FEDERAL COURT OF CANADA TRIAL DIVISION
BETWEEN:
ERNST ZÜNDEL APPLICANT
-AND-
THE MINISTER OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION SECURITY INTELLIGENCE REVIEW COMMITTEE
RESPONDENTS

AFFIDAVIT OF ERNST ZÜNDEL - APPLICANT
AND

THE MINISTER OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION; and SECURITY INTELLIGENCE REVIEW COMMITTEE

REPONDENTS

AFFIDAVIT

I, Ernst Zündel, of 206 Carlton St., City of Toronto, Province of Ontario, MAKE OATH AND SAY AS FOLLOWS:

1. I am the applicant in this matter. The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration seeks to deny me Canadian citizenship on the grounds that I am a risk to the national security of Canada under the Citizenship Act and the Canadian Security Intelligence Act on the grounds that I will commit serious violence in the furtherance of my political beliefs.

2. I have been convicted of no criminal offense during the 38 years I have lived as a permanent resident of Canada. I have never been convicted of counselling, aiding, or abetting any crime,

3. (n)otwithstanding the near-riot which occurred outside of my home by Jewish organizations in 1981, the pipe bombing of my home in 1984, beatings of me and my supporters on the steps of Toronto courthouses in 1984 and 1985, violent threats and telephone harassment over the years (for which at least 3 people have been convicted), a devastating arson attack in 1995, which almost destroyed my home, and the attempted murder by sending me a pipe bomb in 1995. I have never threatened, intimidated, bombed, attacked, beaten or harassed any person in Canada or counselled anyone else to do so, or broken the laws of Canada in any way to the best of my knowledge.

4. I am a pacifist. I renounce violence as a means of political change, and I am disgusted by the use of violence by political groups, the more so since I have been the victim of so much left-wing and Jewish violence.

5. No person, to my knowledge, has ever accused me, either directly or indirectly, of using violence, advocating violence or planning the use of violence in the furtherance of my political beliefs. The sole exceptions to this are the respondents in this application, the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration and the Canadian Intelligence Review Committee (SIRC).

6. The respondent SIRC found in its report on the Heritage Front Affair (The Heritage Front Affair Report) that I had asked for names of Jewish individuals for the purpose of doing them serious physical violence. At 4.4, page 10, of the Report, the respondent SIRC wrote:
  • "In late October 1993, the CSIS Source learned about a threat of serious physical violence against leaders in the Jewish community by a Heritage Front member. The threat was evaluated by CSIS, and the police were notified. Ernst Zündel wanted information on the Jewish community's leaders during this time and was provided with publicly available information (see chapter V, 5.10.6((22) Footnote 22, SIRC interview with Source.
And further at 5.10.6 at page 36, the respondent SIRC wrote:
"We asked the Source about the kinds of information collected on Jewish groups and their leaders. The Source stated that Zündel tasked Bristow to obtain specific information about the names, work places, home addresses, telephone numbers and profiles of prominent Jewish individuals and groups. (135)
  • Zündel said that he needed the addresses of members of the Jewish community so that he could serve subpoenas, but the Source said that Bristow did not believe this. Footnote 135 - Zündel denies this allegation.
The foregoing statements are utterly false allegations.

7. SIRC's source for this false information was Grant Bristow, co-founder and Security Chief of the Heritage Front and alleged CSIS agent.

8. In fact, I asked Bristow for the addresses of the Jewish leaders who had been harassing me relentlessly with threats of prosecution and deportation as a "hate monger" both before and after I won my appeal in the Supreme Court of Canada in August of 1992. The orchestrated harassment against me by these Jewish leaders generated a climate of violence against me that was palpable. Ultimately this hysteria resulted in violent demonstrations outside my home and posters with my head in the cross-hairs of a rifle sight, a devastating arson attack in 1995, and an attempted murder by pipe bomb the same year. I believed and still believe that these leaders of the Jewish organizations were and are guilty under the Criminal Code of intimidation, watching, besetting, stalking and harassment. I wished to charge them with these offenses and believed that I required the addresses of the leaders involved before the police would act on my complaint.

9. I also wrote to my lawyer, Barbara Kulaszka, asking for names and newspaper clippings of those Jews who were continually calling for my arrest and re-charging under the hate laws and deportation, and asked for legal advice on the feasibility of such charges being laid. I also had correspondence with the Attorney General, the Crown Attorney in Toronto and attended at the local police division office and Crown offices in order to try to bring criminal charges against the Jewish leaders harassing me. Attached to this my affidavit and marked Exhibit A is a copy of such correspondence.

10. An investigator for the respondent SIRC identifying himself as John Smith interviewed me over the telephone only days before the "Heritage Front Affair Report" was issued in December of 1994. On the basis of this telephone interview, with no further checking with my lawyers, the respondent SIRC saw fit to make these accusations against me. It did not accept my version of events as to why I wanted the addresses of the Jewish leaders and instead found that my request was tied to threats against the Jewish community leaders.

11. The respondent SIRC's own report "The Heritage Front Affair" is entered against me by the Minister of Citizenship in the hearings now going on before SIRC. The evidence of Grant Bristow contained in that report is the only evidence disclosed to me by the respondent Minister of Citizenship that forms a basis for alleging that I will use violence in the future in furtherance of my political beliefs. It is utterly false information which has proved extremely damaging to me, as these proceedings show.

12. I am unable to subpoena Bristow as I do not know his whereabouts.

13. The respondent SIRC has already proven that they accept the credibility of Bristow over the evidence of myself and other persons and based the whole of the Heritage Front Affair Report, in which it defends and praises CSIS's actions, on his version of events. They have accepted his testimony that my request for information is tied to threats against the Jewish community leaders. This finding was an important justification for the respondent SIRC's exoneration of Bristow and CSIS activities because in its words

(quote accidentally omitted from affidavit filed)

14. The oral testimony I wish to call is as follows:

(a) Wolfgang Droege - Droege was and is the leader of the Heritage Front and will testify as to the goals and strategies of the organization; the role of Grant Bristow in founding and supporting the Heritage Front financially; the actions of Grant Bristow with respect to the harassment campaign against anti-racists, the carrying of guns in the back of his car, the threats of coercion and bodily harm against members of the Heritage Front who did not want to participate in the harassment campaign; and his tampering with a witness in the criminal trial of Eric Fischer and his brother. Droege will also give evidence on the failure of the respondent SIRC to elicit crucial evidence to check what Bristow was saying.

(b) Tyrone Mason - Mason is a former member of the Heritage Front who was kidnapped, forcibly confined and beaten in 1993 by three other members of the Heritage Front, Eric and Elkar Fischer and Drew Maynard. Mason will testify that Bristow counselled Mason to commit perjury after Mason laid charges against the Fischers and Maynard. Mason will testify that the charges against Maynard were dropped because of Crown delay and that under a Crown deal the Fischers pleaded guilty to assault and received a sentence of 30 days. Mason had to be put into the witness protection programme.

(c) Elisse Hategan - Hategan is a former member of the Heritage Front who took part extensively in the harassment campaigns against anti-racists and has knowledge of Bristow's leading role in organizing and conducting the harassment campaign against anti-racists.

(d) Val Meredith, Derek Lee and Tom Wappel - These three persons are all members of the House of Commons Sub-Committee on National Security which investigated the Heritage Front Affair in 1995 and wrote a draft report which media accounts reported found that CSIS had broken the law in spying on the Heritage Front and covered up evidence in its report on the affair. This report was never released.

(e) Grant Bristow - Grant Bristow is the source of the information that I planned future violence against Jewish leaders. I should be entitled to cross-examine Bristow in open court to show that Bristow lied about me in the version accepted by the respondent SIRC in its report "The Heritage Front Affair." This is a matter of credibility which should take place in open court and for the public to see that justice is done.

(f) Ernst Zündel - My own testimony would show that the "Heritage Front Affair" report by the respondent SIRC falsely accuses me of eliciting the names of prominent Jews for some illicit purpose, that SIRC is biased against the Right wing and its ideas; that it falsely portrays the Right wing as a monolithic entity bent on political violence and destabilization; that the evidence of Grant Bristow regarding my requests for information was false; that the other findings of SIRC in its report concerning me were false and show an overwhelming political prejudice and hostility to me and to what it terms the "extreme right wing" of which it alleges I am a leading part.

15. This evidence should be open to public scrutiny and cross-examination in open court.

16. I believe this evidence will show reasonable apprehension of bias and conflict of interest by the respondent SIRC.

DATED this 9th day of May, 1996.

_________ Ernst Zündel

Sworn before me at
the City of Toronto in the
Province of Ontario
this 9th day of May 1996.

___________ Commissioner for Taking Affidavits, etc.
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Re: Holocaust Believers / Promoters Are Dangerous

Post by Ante Semitić » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:29 am

If you think somebody is wrong about something do you think its OK to bomb that person? That is of course only but one example of the violence committed by extreme ‘Holocaust’ Believers against people whom they cannot refute, or which they consider dangerous to their precious ideology (or, perhaps better described as some nutty, secteristic talmudic-inspired puke of a ‘religion’: because when it comes down to it, its all belief).

There is countless examples of these violent ‘Holocaust’ Believers. I have only posted one example where they pipe bombed Ernst Zündel.

Why do they need to resort to such extremes if they have truth on their side? Not only that, they have the courts of 13 countries on their side as an extra weapon.

What a ‘holocaust’ it all is..
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Post by Ante Semitić » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:33 am

Actually, they did a lot more than just bombing him. As you can read:

„the pipe bombing of my home in 1984, beatings of me and my supporters on the steps of Toronto courthouses in 1984 and 1985, violent threats and telephone harassment over the years (for which at least 3 people have been convicted), a devastating arson attack in 1995, which almost destroyed my home, and the attempted murder by sending me a pipe bomb in 1995. I have never threatened, intimidated, bombed, attacked, beaten or harassed any person in Canada or counselled anyone else to do so, or broken the laws of Canada in any way to the best of my knowledge.“

Keep in mind, this gentleman (Ernst Zündel) is a outspoken pacifist!
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Post by Ante Semitić » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:37 am

This forum should have a sticky post about ‘Holocaust’ Believer violence and crimes against people whom they have a disagreement with, or whom they cannot refute, or consider to be dangerous to their ideology-religious-ish bullshit story.

Right. OK?
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Post by been-there » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:03 am

generic wrote:This forum should have a sticky post about ‘Holocaust’ Believer violence and crimes against people whom they have a disagreement with, or whom they cannot refute, or consider to be dangerous to their ideology-religious-ish ...story.
Good idea. Good thread. Thanks for the Zündel AFFIDAVIT. I hadn't read that before. That is damning evidence of how topsy-turvy the current majority view is.
So many holocaust revisionist web-sites are off-limits with a warning they contain "hate & violence" promotion against Jews, when in reality, the hatred and violence is very clearly mostly coming from the other direction.
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Post by Ante Semitić » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:19 am

Exactly.

Can you imagine Mattogno or even Jürgen sending a couple of pipe bombs to Robeto Muehlenkamp? It is not even possible to imagine such a thing. But this is what the other side is frequently engaged in.

Quite disturbing, actually. Also, that’s what they’re after: to make people queasy or reluctant, or afraid of that issue, to even touch it. Fear can be an incredible weapon !
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Post by Cerdic » Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:00 am

People may use violence against people they disagree with, especially with repugnant types such as neo-Nazis and deniers. It's a tangential argument at best.
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Post by Ante Semitić » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:56 pm

Cerdic wrote:People may use violence against people they disagree with, especially with repugnant types such as neo-Nazis and deniers. It's a tangential argument at best.
Thank you for this candid admission.

Cerdic is a fanatic believer in this ‘holocaust’-saga and she/he/it ostensibly supports the usage of violence against dissenters.

Any other ‘Holocaust’ Believers who can be as open about it as Cerdic?

Can we sticky this and collect ‘Holocaust’ Believer admissions and examples of their extreme violence against those they disagree with?

Thank you for the continued support.
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Post by Ante Semitić » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:40 pm

Cerdic writes ‘repugnant types’, does this mean he/she/it has no issue with the argument or does it mean he/she/it has a problem with the person making the argument, or both? What’s so repugnant about saying very few j*ws died in WWII in comparison to all other gentile deaths? I would have thought that was great news for people who has an obsession about killing j*ws or the fate of their precious j*ws. No?

Ah, no. That is ‘repugnant’ according to ‘Holocaust’ Believer Cerdic.

I refrained from attacks in this post because its not fitting, partly because this topic is about attacks committed by extreme ‘Holocaust’ Believers, and wholly because I am trying to stay away from the ban hammer. But it seems only to beat me when I mention the ‘unmentionables’, you know - the parasitic kind.
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Re: Holocaust Believers / Promoters Are Dangerous

Post by Nessie » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:08 pm

The attacks on Zundell were wrong, unjustifiable and those involved should be prosecuted and ashamed of themselves. Holocaust denial laws are also wrong.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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