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Re: 'Holocaust reindoctrination' prophylactic.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:32 pm
by Werd
I must say Nessie you are really being dishonest here.
He said he was "dragged around for two weeks" and he had for those two weeks he had "no water". Clearly he was not actually dragged around and he must had had some water in that time. Anyone who is not stupid or dishonest would understand that and what he said should not be taken literally.
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He is using hyperbole and anyone with even limited intelligence would recognise that.
We suspect that. But do other people know that? Or will they believe him due to the holocaust brainwashing that says we must never question anything a witness says? Some people won't even go as far as you Nessie to admit this whole two week no water and dragging thing is bogus. And it's THOSE IDIOTS that liars are TAKING ADVANTAGE OF. The issue is not that you and me and been-there know better. It's that other people don't or won't, and liars and hucksters are abusing that power and privilege. I have seen some holocaust people backtrack and admit a lot of their experiences were fake. But I don't see any such admission coming from that guys' mouth. And that article was from 2015. Will he apologize for lacing his story with bullshit?

Re: 'Holocaust reindoctrination' prophylactic.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:52 pm
by Nessie
Werd wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 1:26 pm
It seems we are having a bit of a problem here.
The normal problem encountered when a denier/revisionist is asked to evidence a claim.... :roll:
been-there:
any comments to news articles questioning the accuracy of this deceitful hyperbole are instantly deleted by moderators as a 'hate crime' and as 'holocaust denial'.

Nessie:
The BBC News and those articles do not have a comments section I can see. Please show evidence comments were deleted as "hate crime" and "denial".

been-there.
Focus now...
News articles that have comments DO have moderators who delete... etc., etc. And how can I show you evidence of the content of a deleted comment??! :o Can you really not admit that this is further evidence of your moronic and dishonest approach to discussing this topic.

Nessie:
I did not ask you to show me such a comment. I asked you to show me the article comments section, which you now admit, it does not have one, you were referring to other news sites.



Let's keep this simple. Been-there, find the link to the bbc news article containing the hyperbole about being dragged around for two weeks with no water.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32589411
Let me see if there is a comments section or not. If there is not, then take the url link and plug it into the webarchive here.
https://web.archive.org
Find an old version and see if it did have a comments section. Here is the oldest version. May 7 2015. The day it was written.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150507195 ... e-32589411
Wow. Let's see what it says that is not there anymore in 2018:
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Nowhere is there any evidence that casual readers could post their own comments at the bottom of the page. That should clear things up. The webarchive is a great thing. I suggest both of you two learn how to use it. Been-there, while this phrase of yours may be correct...
any comments to news articles questioning the accuracy of this deceitful hyperbole are instantly deleted by moderators as a 'hate crime' and as 'holocaust denial'.
It does not appear to apply to this one single article in question. It may apply to others, however. Difference.
A lot of fuss about something that is not a major issue :lol:

Re: 'Holocaust reindoctrination' prophylactic.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:55 pm
by Nessie
Werd wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 1:32 pm
I must say Nessie you are really being dishonest here.
He said he was "dragged around for two weeks" and he had for those two weeks he had "no water". Clearly he was not actually dragged around and he must had had some water in that time. Anyone who is not stupid or dishonest would understand that and what he said should not be taken literally.
[...]
He is using hyperbole and anyone with even limited intelligence would recognise that.
We suspect that. But do other people know that?
I am quite sure they do. I am quite sure pretty much everyone knows that being dragged around for two weeks and not getting any water would mean certain death.
Or will they believe him due to the holocaust brainwashing that says we must never question anything a witness says? Some people won't even go as far as you Nessie to admit this whole two week no water and dragging thing is bogus.
Rubbish.
And it's THOSE IDIOTS that liars are TAKING ADVANTAGE OF. The issue is not that you and me and been-there know better. It's that other people don't or won't, and liars and hucksters are abusing that power and privilege. I have seen some holocaust people backtrack and admit a lot of their experiences were fake. But I don't see any such admission coming from that guys' mouth. And that article was from 2015. Will he apologize for lacing his story with bullshit?
Hyperbole. Learn about it. Stop taking what the witnesses you claim are unreliable and lying on one hand, as stating literal facts on the other hand.

Re: 'Holocaust reindoctrination' prophylactic.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:44 pm
by Werd
Nessie wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 3:55 pm
Stop taking what the witnesses you claim are unreliable and lying on one hand, as stating literal facts on the other hand.
Not sure what you're specifically referring to.

Re: 'Holocaust reindoctrination' prophylactic.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:57 pm
by Nessie
Werd wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 4:44 pm
Nessie wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 3:55 pm
Stop taking what the witnesses you claim are unreliable and lying on one hand, as stating literal facts on the other hand.
Not sure what you're specifically referring to.
The denier tactic of claiming what a witness said is literally what they saw or experienced (matchsticks used to start pyres, no water of two weeks) and then also claiming they lied or are unreliable. It is one or the other, it cannot be both.

Re: 'Holocaust reindoctrination' prophylactic.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 5:23 pm
by Werd
The denier tactic of claiming what a witness said is literally what they saw or experienced
Um, that's you guys with Tauber's ridiculous claims of 4 bodies destroyed in 30 minutes in one muffle at a non corpse sintering temperature.

Re: 'Holocaust reindoctrination' prophylactic.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:03 pm
by been-there
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This is a series being aired on TV at the moment.
Look at how they portray German soldiers.

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Infecting the minds of children with over simplified, racist hate tropes. What hypocrisy.

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Re: 'Holocaust reindoctrination' prophylactic.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:07 pm
by Nessie
Werd wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 5:23 pm
The denier tactic of claiming what a witness said is literally what they saw or experienced
Um, that's you guys with Tauber's ridiculous claims of 4 bodies destroyed in 30 minutes in one muffle at a non corpse sintering temperature.
Tauber did not make that claim. Try arguing against what he actually did say, by linking to his words, quoting them and replying directly to them.

Re: 'Holocaust reindoctrination' prophylactic.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:53 pm
by Trolljegeren
Compare and contrast
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Re: 'Holocaust reindoctrination' prophylactic.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:09 pm
by Werd
I only got a notification about this topic because Nessie decided to respond to an old post of mine. It was he who decided to beat a dead horse, not me. Honestly, I will have to read this whole topic back to font to even know what it is about.