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Re: Media NEVER lets us forget it - Holocaust in the 'news'(?)

Post by been-there » Sat May 11, 2019 5:23 am

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Here is an unusual 'news' article that dares investigate and analyse the unmentionable fact of the Jewish 'holocaust' pseudo-history being linked to:
1.) subtle anti-muslim conditioning,
2.) blatant mental manipulation of the masses to regard Jewish suffering as “sacred” and
3.) subliminal encouragement to obediently venerate the state and its seat of power.
The problem with London’s new Holocaust memorial

Adjaye Associates and Ron Arad Architects won the design competition for the new Holocaust memorial to be sited next to the Houses of Parliament.

The winner announcement brings to an end the first stage of what has already been a contentious project. Concerns were raised regarding its location in Victoria Tower Gardens and the Imperial War Museum has suggested that the new learning centre could end up duplicating its own redesigned Holocaust exhibition.

But little public commentary has been given to the ways in which the memorial has been deliberately conceptualised as a sacred site” and its highly politicised relationship with Britain’s religious landscape and ideas of national identity.

Explicit language of sacredness has surrounded the memorial project with remarkable consistency. The report from the commission set up by the prime minister that first proposed its construction repeatedly described Holocaust remembrance as “a sacred duty”. Meanwhile, the UK’s chief rabbi, Ephraim Mirvis, spoke of the project as a chance “to create a sacred space for reflection”. Several shortlisted design teams used the word “sacred” in their publicity videos and one architectural critic even remarked that “the act of choosing a design itself held a sacred dimension”.

But underlying such recurrent vocabulary lies a vision of the memorial as spiritually transformative or, to borrow the language from the winning design team: a “holistic sensorial and emotive journey.” Its plan includes a cavernous and dark “contemplation court” located within a larger underground complex that “envelops the visitor in the physical, intellectual and emotional experience”.

Statement of ‘British values’
First announced by a government press release as a “permanent statement of our British values”, it is clear that the sacredness surrounding the London memorial is intended to empower a similarly reinvigorated view of Britain and its governance. ...A description of the winning design similarly emphasised that “on leaving the memorial, the circulation route ensures visitors will emerge to see the classic uninterrupted view of parliament – and the reality of democracy”.
As the word “ensures” indicates, this will be a memorial journey in which a confrontation with historical horror is to be consciously partnered with a new and grateful encounter with an iconic landmark of British governance.

The above is an excerpt looking at how the memorial is designed to foster veneration of the state. This next excerpt looks at how it sends a confused message about British religious identity.
The memorial and religious communities
Yet if the new memorial is meant as a sacred location from which visitors are invited to emerge as (re)baptised inhabitants of British democracy, how does this all fit into the wider religious-secular landscape of the nation? Certainly the universal implications of remembrance were unambiguously clear in the minds of those that first proposed the memorial, with the commission report declaring its desire to “realise a bold vision … that will resonate with people of all faiths, from all lands, for all times”.

But the relationship between the project’s ideological underpinnings and specific faith communities is more uneven than such declarations suggest. Prominent Jewish groups were actively consulted, but in contrast to the community-funded Holocaust memorial unveiled in Hyde Park in 1983, the new memorial is a predominantly state-driven undertaking (paid for by the Department for Communities and Local Government).

With regard to Muslims and Christian communities, the memorial has particular relevance via its envisioning as a “permanent statement of our British values”. The contentious term “British values” has its roots in anti-radicalisation policy and, during her term as home secretary, Theresa May made clear that the antithesis of “British values” is Islamist extremism. “British values” has, as such, become bound up in what looks set to be a long-running debate about the stigmatisation and othering of Muslims.

Both the former prime minster, David Cameron, and Theresa May have expressly linked national values with Christian heritage. This is awkward if we think simultaneously of the Holocaust memorial as an attestation to “British values” and the deep history of Jews having faced oppression at the hands of Christianity.

Here is more on the disconnect from centuries of institutionalised European racism and British, white-supremacist übermensch attitudes and actions, and the political intentions of a 'holocaust' memorial positioned right by the side of the houses of parliament.
Veneration of the state
Underlying the interface between “British values” and public Holocaust memory is a fundamental point that, because of the side Britain fought on in World War II, remembrance of Nazi atrocities can appear to offer a moral clarity that ultimately bolsters national pride. Unlike other, messier aspects of British history (especially those concerned with colonialism and empire) a sacred site of Holocaust remembrance is ripe with potential to empower veneration of the state. And as I’ve suggested, this is not something that has been consistently resisted among those involved with creation of the new memorial in London.

In the design video that accompanied the original entry by the architects there is an oddly discordant moment when Ron Arad declares that: “We wanted something that is not trying to claim it for any kind of political purpose. We wanted to be free from that.” But he then muses: “Can you be free from that?” It’s hard to make sense of this comment in the context of a competition to build “a permanent statement of our British values” – in other words, one in which “political purpose” seems a part of its very conceptual origins.
You can read the whole article with many hypertext links here.

Tellingly, the idea of Jewish groups having the power, influence and authority to create an uneccesarry duplicate of the already deceitful exhibition in the British IMPERIAL war museum, is neither addressed nor even observed. This is the elephant in the room in my opinion. Such intellectuals as this author must be aware of the inordinate and democratically unrepresentive power of Jewish groups defining what are "British values" But he presumably never considers the implications of that in relation to their ability to force Britons, Americans, Canadians, Germans, etc., etc. into creating conspicuous memorials wordlwide to their self-centred mythology of 'unique Jewish suffering'.

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Post by Friedrich Paul Berg » Sat May 11, 2019 1:04 pm

The "holocaust" has already become the new post WW2 "religion" So, there is not much new there except that ALL of the older religions must realign themselves as best they can. So, damn all religions, new and old. Somehow people must learn to think critically for themselves and to fight for their rights to think and speak critically. If they are not willing to fight, they will get more religion.

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Re: Media NEVER lets us forget it - Holocaust in the 'news'(?)

Post by been-there » Sat May 11, 2019 2:32 pm

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I have changed some words to make this excerpt from the book 1984 fit a possible intepretation of current events. E.g. I have changed such words as the Party to [international jewry].

After the change it then sounds exactly like something from a Hitler speech.
Which is why I suspect that Hitler has been made into a caricature of evil-incarnate by Hollywood, by the mass-media and by successive western governments worldwide. People in control of those have made him into the personification of wickedness — as the icon of malevolent tyranny — in order to discredit and deflect from what he actually said. The invention of the 'holocaust' pseudo-history is a huge part of that demonisation. Which is why those who control the news and governments constantly go on about the holocaust and create more and more memorials to it.
We have all been conditioned to hate 'Hitler' and 'Nazis'. That is exactly the same as how the masses were taught to hate their supposed enemy and not heed his warning, in the story of 1984.
In both cases the enemy leader must be hated because he told a truth that it is imperative the masses don't hear, or if they do, are blinded by their hate into not heeding or considering.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05- ... tion-voter
In case anyone is interested, here is what Goldstein actually says in that scene (you can't make it out, because the crowd is shouting over it, but that's what he says according to the subtitles).
“Nothing [the media controlled by international jews] says is true. Nothing [international jewry] does is good.
Even the war [on terror] itself isn't real. [International jewry] wants you to believe we are at war so as to channel your aggression away from their rightful target: [international jewry].

[Your elected leader] is not real. He is pure fiction, created by [international jewry]. The real rulers of the State are unknown, faceless manipulators who, because they are not known are able to wield power without let or hindrance.

People of [the west], you are being duped. [International jewry] doesn't serve the people — it serves itself. We are not at war with [Islam or Isis]. You are being made into obedient, stupid slaves of [international jewry].
Open your eyes. See the evil that is happening to you. [Governments controlled by international jewry] drop bombs on their own citizens [in false flag attacks]. It is [international jewry], not the [Islamic terrorists], who are our enemies.”
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Post by Friedrich Paul Berg » Sat May 11, 2019 3:07 pm

How did Orwell come to choose a name like "Goldstein" for his great fictional leader? I think he knew people were already so brainwashed that they would NOT make the seemingly obvious connection. They were already so cowed and frightened that they would NOT dare to see what Orwell and many others especially in Germany already knew so well.

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Post by Turnagain » Sat May 11, 2019 9:47 pm

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 1:04 pm
The "holocaust" has already become the new post WW2 "religion" So, there is not much new there except that ALL of the older religions must realign themselves as best they can. So, damn all religions, new and old. Somehow people must learn to think critically for themselves and to fight for their rights to think and speak critically. If they are not willing to fight, they will get more religion.
Here's a little something to complement your 1984 clip.



Note the reference to "sacred duty" and other such claptrap. They seem to be getting quite upset about the inroads revisionism is making into their new religion. I wonder how many British soldiers could have been conned into fighting WW II if those soldiers could have seen then what their country would become in the present day.

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Post by been-there » Sun May 12, 2019 3:25 am

Turnagain wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 9:47 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... -3vWJizC7o

Note the reference to "sacred duty" and other such claptrap. They seem to be getting quite upset about the inroads revisionism is making into their new religion. I wonder how many British soldiers could have been conned into fighting WW II if those soldiers could have seen then what their country would become in the present day.
Rigorous, analytical, critical, historical revision is permitted — even encouraged — in all areas of currently accepted history.... except one.

That fact alone demonstrates the disconnect from reality that has allowed this one topic to become not only a 'sacred' quasi-religion, but to be a political 'hoop' that all politicians who seek high office and a postive mention in future history books must jump through. And who is making them jump through this 'hoop'? That question and its answer is not permitted to be mentioned.
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Post by been-there » Tue May 14, 2019 4:00 pm

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Poland cancels Israeli delegation visit
in row over Holocaust compensation


In what was described as the largest anti-Jewish demonstration in years, Polish nationalists marched to the American embassy in Warsaw, in protest of the so called JUST Act, signed into law by President Donald Trump last year requiring the State Department report to Congress on the state of restitution of property stolen in the Holocaust in dozens of countries.

...According to the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany (The Claims Conference) Poland is the only EU member that has not passed any laws regulating restitution for Jewish Holocaust survivors and their families.

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,734 ... 85,00.html

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Post by been-there » Wed May 22, 2019 2:21 am

There was a news article yesterday on the RTNews website and on their Facebook page about a video on Al Jazeera concerning the holocaust. It was concerning differences in the voice over in the English and Arabic versions.

Apparently the Arabic version was saying that the numbers supposedly killed in 'the holocaust' are exaggerated and that Zionism has used the narrative to commit its own atrocities and gain sympathy to deflect from its own lebensraum land-theft in Palestinian.

The comments section was very interesting indeed. I should say over 95% were highly critical of the holocaust as reliable history and were agreeing with the Arabic statement, saying things like "well, that is true".

Take a look.

https://m.facebook.com/story/graphql_pe ... QxMQ%3D%3D

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... ael-video/
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Post by been-there » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:22 am

been-there wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:44 am
Statistical Mechanic wrote:What would be strange would be a situation where a genocide on the scale of the H. didn't cause major and long-term reverberations.
Erm...? You mean like the genocide of the Native American Indians doesn't "cause major and long-term reverberations"?

Or the genocide of the Australasian Aborigines doesn't?

How about the estimated more than 1 million ethnic Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks killed between 1915 and 1923 in the Armenian Holocaust? How often does that one get a news story per day? Or per month? How many news stories this year even??

How about the estimation of between 1.7 and 2 million Cambodians killed in the Khmer Rouge’s 'Killing Fields' genocide. Read any news stories on that one in the last week?? Or month? Or how many news stories about that genocide this year even?

You are proving my point
Why can't you people concede any point, no matter how obvious, or how insignificant?

I'm guessing a contributing factor is that none of these other unreported 'news' genocodes are so riddled with controversies, obvious distortions and falsehoods, the way this WW" Jewish 'catastrophe' is. Therefore they are not under threat of being minimised or even shown to be vastly exaggerated and falsified.

WE could also be served by asking ourselves why none of these other genocides have laws against discussing them critically? Hmmmm? Why is that?

WE could also be served by asking ourselves why this Jewish one is so special that we all have to be reminded about sometimes even multiple times on a a single day in 'news' articles?

C'mon! For your own sanity. Can you naysayers try and concede a simple and obvious point for a change?
This post demonstrates the total disconnect that many Jews have when
it comes to critically looking at the Holocaust story.
They can't.
They just cannot apply logic, reason or any critical thinking at all.

So even a relatively mild critique pointing out that the inordinate amout of column inches given weekly to a seven decades old and heavily mythologised and minor aspect of WW2 is a curious phenomena.

I regard the disconnect from reality as a sign of Jewish over-sensivity to any form of collective criticism.
I regard the inordinate amount of H-related 'news' column inches as a sign of inordinate Jewish power.

I think this recent news story is about the latter [inordinate Jewish power].
Its about Sweden getting its own 'museum' to racistly memorialise the Jewish WW2 experience above and beyond anyone else's.
They already have their own 'Jewish museum'.
But that's not enough.
Everyone must be constantly reminded what since the 1960's they delusionally and egocentrically claim happened to just them during WW2.
Malmö favourite to host new Holocaust Museum

Malmö is now favourite in the bidding to host Sweden's new national Holocaust museum, with the head of Stockholm's Jewish Museum giving the southern city her blessing.

"Malmö would be an excellent choice," Christina Gamstorp, director of Stockholm's Jewish Museum, told the local Sydsvenskan newspaper. "It is a superb idea to use Malmö, as the actual place where most concentration camp survivors first arrived."

In the spring of 1945 the Swedish Red Cross and the Danish government collaborated in the White Buses operation, rescuing 15,345 people from concentration camps in Nazi Germany. It remains unclear exactly how many of those rescued were Jewish.

Malmö mayor Katrin Stjernfeldt Jammeh said that the decision in May to host a major international Holocaust conference in Malmö showed that the national government recognized the city's important role.

"This decision shows that the government is aware of Malmö's history and that it knows that we here in Malmö are working determinedly to counter anti-Semitism," she told Sydsvenskan.

The new museum is part of Sweden's preparations for next year's celebration of the 75th anniversary of the freeing of hundreds of thousands of Jews from Nazi Germany's concentration camps.

https://www.thelocal.se/20190620/malmo- ... =se-latest
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