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Re: Media NEVER lets us forget it - Holocaust in the 'news'(?)

Post by been-there » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:02 pm

This whole scamming enterprise based on 'THE Holocaust' as purely factual history, and the mass-deception that this flawed and deliberately out-of-context history has created in the minds of the majority, appears to be unravelling in Poland. Its possible to deceive by omission, and 'the H-narrative' has been a huge deception by omission as well as commission. They took their self-centred deceit too far, and for too long.
NO-ONE likes to be lied too.
No-one likes that, PLUS being forced to keep silent, and forced go along with the lie.
Poland’s Jews fear for future under new Holocaust law

Although popular at home, the legislation signed last week by President Andrzej Duda has proved a diplomatic and public relations catastrophe abroad, as scholars, Holocaust survivors and friendly governments alike have lined up to voice their criticism and concerns about a potentially chilling effect on the study and understanding of the Holocaust.

The ensuing controversy has sparked a war of words between Polish and Israeli politicians, and an outpouring of antisemitic[?] rhetoric in Poland as nationalist and pro-government media seek to portray the country as under attack from an international anti-Polish campaign orchestrated by foreign powers and Jewish advocacy groups abroad.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... WEML6619I2
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Re: Media NEVER lets us forget it - Holocaust in the 'news'(?)

Post by NSDAP » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:54 am

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Re: Media NEVER lets us forget it - Holocaust in the 'news'(?)

Post by been-there » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:28 pm

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Holy moly!!! :o
Who is running Russian Times news??

Check out this 'news' story and look at the photos they got to go with it. :shock:

Is this subliminal messaging??

RT news gets the big H in multiple times in this only slllllightly related news report from today... Or, maybe VERY RELATED news story?? (Hmmmm? What are they trying to tell us?) You decide...
Polish priest sparks outrage after claiming ‘truth’ to Jews is ‘whatever serves their own interests’

Poland’s Jewish association has accused a Catholic priest of spreading hate speech after he claimed on a TV show that Jews have their own perception of truth, which is often something that “serves Israel’s interests.”

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A man wearing a kippah visits the former Nazi death camp Buchenwald

Jewish people have “a completely different system of values, a different concept of truth” Henryk Zielinski, a priest and editor-in-chief of Catholic magazine ‘Idziemy’ (‘We are going’) told broadcaster TVP during a show aired last Saturday. He proceeded to claim that truth was a very flexible notion for Jews.

Zielinski argued that “the truth corresponds to facts” for the Poles but, for Jews, “truth means something that confirms to [their] understanding of what’s beneficial.” If a Jew is religious, “then truth means something God wants” the priest claimed. In secular Jews, “the truth is subjective or whatever serves Israel’s interests.”

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A view of 'Halt!' sign near the entrance gate to the former Auschwitz 1 camp. Oswiecim, Poland © Artur Widak

In support of his claim, Zielinski claimed to have good knowledge of Jewish spiritual literature, citing the Haggadah, namely a text that describes the Biblical story of the Jewish exodus from ancient Egypt. “Often these stories have nothing to do with facts” noted the Catholic priest.

The remarks have caused outrage among Poland’s Jewish diaspora. The Union of Jewish Communities in Poland have filed a complaint under laws that stipulate “broadcasts or other messages may not propagate illegal activities… they may not contain content that incites to hatred or discriminate on the grounds of race, disability, sex, religion or nationality.”

It also lambasted TV host Michal Karnowski for not challenging Zielinski’s views. He is not the first Polish public figure to make an odd reference to Jewish people or the Holocaust, fueling the ongoing spat between Warsaw and Tel Aviv.

In mid-February, Poland’s Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki told the 2018 Munich Security Conference that there were Polish perpetrators in the Holocaust, “as there were Jewish perpetrators, as there were Russian perpetrators, as there were Ukrainian and German perpetrators.”

READ MORE: Polish Jews say PM’s Holocaust complicity comments ‘cross line of common sense’

The remarks have been criticized in Israel, whose Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused his Polish counterpart of an “inability to understand history.” Other politicians branded Morawiecki’s comments “anti-Semitism of the oldest kind.”

Relations between Poland and Israel began to sour after the eastern European state passed a law earlier in February that outlawed blaming Poles for their complicity in Holocaust crimes during the Second World War, and took particular notice of the words “Polish death camp.”

https://www.rt.com/news/420033-poland-p ... ews-truth/
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Re: Media NEVER lets us forget it - Holocaust in the 'news'(?)

Post by blake121666 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:48 am

been-there wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:28 pm
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Holy moly!!! :o
Who is running Russian Times news??

Check out this 'news' story and look at the photos they got to go with it. :shock:

Is this subliminal messaging??

RT news gets the big H in multiple times in this only slllllightly related news report from today... Or, maybe VERY RELATED news story?? (Hmmmm? What are they trying to tell us?) You decide...
Polish priest sparks outrage after claiming ‘truth’ to Jews is ‘whatever serves their own interests’

Poland’s Jewish association has accused a Catholic priest of spreading hate speech after he claimed on a TV show that Jews have their own perception of truth, which is often something that “serves Israel’s interests.”

Image
A man wearing a kippah visits the former Nazi death camp Buchenwald

Jewish people have “a completely different system of values, a different concept of truth” Henryk Zielinski, a priest and editor-in-chief of Catholic magazine ‘Idziemy’ (‘We are going’) told broadcaster TVP during a show aired last Saturday. He proceeded to claim that truth was a very flexible notion for Jews.

Zielinski argued that “the truth corresponds to facts” for the Poles but, for Jews, “truth means something that confirms to [their] understanding of what’s beneficial.” If a Jew is religious, “then truth means something God wants” the priest claimed. In secular Jews, “the truth is subjective or whatever serves Israel’s interests.”

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A view of 'Halt!' sign near the entrance gate to the former Auschwitz 1 camp. Oswiecim, Poland © Artur Widak

In support of his claim, Zielinski claimed to have good knowledge of Jewish spiritual literature, citing the Haggadah, namely a text that describes the Biblical story of the Jewish exodus from ancient Egypt. “Often these stories have nothing to do with facts” noted the Catholic priest.

The remarks have caused outrage among Poland’s Jewish diaspora. The Union of Jewish Communities in Poland have filed a complaint under laws that stipulate “broadcasts or other messages may not propagate illegal activities… they may not contain content that incites to hatred or discriminate on the grounds of race, disability, sex, religion or nationality.”

It also lambasted TV host Michal Karnowski for not challenging Zielinski’s views. He is not the first Polish public figure to make an odd reference to Jewish people or the Holocaust, fueling the ongoing spat between Warsaw and Tel Aviv.

In mid-February, Poland’s Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki told the 2018 Munich Security Conference that there were Polish perpetrators in the Holocaust, “as there were Jewish perpetrators, as there were Russian perpetrators, as there were Ukrainian and German perpetrators.”

READ MORE: Polish Jews say PM’s Holocaust complicity comments ‘cross line of common sense’

The remarks have been criticized in Israel, whose Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused his Polish counterpart of an “inability to understand history.” Other politicians branded Morawiecki’s comments “anti-Semitism of the oldest kind.”

Relations between Poland and Israel began to sour after the eastern European state passed a law earlier in February that outlawed blaming Poles for their complicity in Holocaust crimes during the Second World War, and took particular notice of the words “Polish death camp.”

https://www.rt.com/news/420033-poland-p ... ews-truth/
Another pertinent example might be that Spielberg movie "Liberators" - highlighted by Eric Hunt in a video or 2. One of those rabbis in that movie embellishing differently on the same tall tales was found by BRoI:
Facts weren't important in this instance. It was desired to tell a story of liberation by black GIs and so that was told in a very dramatic and detailed way - even though it was undeniably untrue.

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Re: Media NEVER lets us forget it - Holocaust in the 'news'(?)

Post by been-there » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:15 am

blake121666 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:48 am
been-there wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:28 pm
.
Holy moly!!! :o
Who is running Russian Times news??

Check out this 'news' story and look at the photos they got to go with it. :shock:

Is this subliminal messaging??

RT news gets the big H in multiple times in this only slllllightly related news report from today... Or, maybe VERY RELATED news story?? (Hmmmm? What are they trying to tell us?) You decide...
Polish priest sparks outrage after claiming ‘truth’ to Jews is ‘whatever serves their own interests’

Poland’s Jewish association has accused a Catholic priest of spreading hate speech after he claimed on a TV show that Jews have their own perception of truth, which is often something that “serves Israel’s interests.”

Jewish people have “a completely different system of values, a different concept of truth” Henryk Zielinski, a priest and editor-in-chief of Catholic magazine ‘Idziemy’ (‘We are going’) told broadcaster TVP during a show aired last Saturday. He proceeded to claim that truth was a very flexible notion for Jews...
Another pertinent example might be that Spielberg movie "Liberators" - highlighted by Eric Hunt in a video or two. One of those rabbis in that movie embellishing differently on the same tall tales was found by BRoI...
The accusation that Jews collectively have their own perception of truth which they often distort to serve their own interests, was not the part that interested me most in the news article, Blake.

It was that RT chose to illustrate that with photos related to the Jewish 'holocaust' narrative.

Which I think could be subtle subliminal messaging from RT. Do you see?

It subtly or subliminally suggests that their H-narrative — which is based perhaps 98% upon Jewish testimony — is an example of Jewish distorted 'truth'.

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Re: Media NEVER lets us forget it - Holocaust in the 'news'(?)

Post by been-there » Mon May 07, 2018 3:37 am

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The 'news' story posted by Fritz Berg is being repeated in numerous news media in EXACTLY the same format, and all appearing at the same time.

Q. Who has such control over so many news media outlets?

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So I did a quick search. It is copyright of The Associated Press (AP).
It appeared on numerous news-media websites simultaneously with exactly the same heading, photo and text.

Q. So who are the AP and who owns it/controls it?
The Associated Press (AP) is a U.S.-based not-for-profit news agency headquartered in New York City. Founded in 1846, it operates as a cooperative, unincorporated association. The AP is owned by its contributing newspapers and radio and television stations in the United States, all of which contribute stories to the AP and use material written by its staff journalists.

The AP news report, distributed to its members and customers, is produced in English, Spanish and Arabic.

As of 2016, news collected by the AP was published and republished by more than 1,300 newspapers and broadcasters. The AP operates 263 news bureaus in 106 countries. It also operates the AP Radio Network, which provides newscasts twice hourly for broadcast and satellite radio and television stations.
Many newspapers and broadcasters outside the United States are AP subscribers, paying a fee to use AP material without being contributing members of the cooperative.

The Associated Press was formed in May 1846...
The venture was organized by Moses Yale Beach (1800–1868)
Check out this admission:
the Associated Press has “in a sense been allied with the Jewish Telegraphic Agency since its inception,”

https://www.jta.org/1928/02/21/archive/ ... partiality
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Re: Media NEVER lets us forget it - Holocaust in the 'news'(?)

Post by NSDAP » Mon May 07, 2018 3:53 am

They are using the term neo Nazi in an attempt to disparage her: they clearly have no idea of the difference between a National Socialist and a Neo Nazi.
I will put this simply with two photos. There are many more but hopefully those doubters will get the idea.
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Re: Media NEVER lets us forget it - Holocaust in the 'news'(?)

Post by Nessie » Mon May 07, 2018 5:08 am

In the news today;

"Poland's Holocaust law triggers tide of abuse against Auschwitz museum
Staff say they have suffered a campaign of disinformation and hate from Polish nationalists"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... itz-museum

This is the action of people who are unable to evidence their beliefs;

"...the home of one foreign guide was attacked and supporters of a convicted antisemite filmed themselves repeatedly hectoring their guide during a visit to the camp last month."

"Dozens of articles on dodgy websites, hundreds of Twitter accounts, thousands of similar tweets, profanities, memes, threats, slanders, denunciations...."

Instead of providing evidence, they abuse and lie. As a result;

"The museum has become increasingly assertive in its rebuttals, regularly intervening in discussions on Twitter and publishing a long list of false claims that have been made about the museum, ranging from the issue of Polish flags to the accusation that former Polish prisoners were not invited to a ceremony in January to commemorate the camp’s liberation."
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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Re: Media NEVER lets us forget it - Holocaust in the 'news'(?)

Post by NSDAP » Mon May 07, 2018 5:54 am

Nessie wrote:
Mon May 07, 2018 5:08 am
In the news today;

"Poland's Holocaust law triggers tide of abuse against Auschwitz museum

This is the action of people who are unable to evidence their beliefs;
Good it is about time the Poles woke up and realised Auschwitz is a hoax and the staff are a part of a Disney complex. As with religion people do not evidence their beliefs but they do have belief in the evidence when presented in a credible manner. This is Politics Nessie and the chickens are coming home to roost. We understand the FSB and the SVR will help find the demise of the 1.6 million murdered Germans. This genocide of German people including Juden may have been a Stalinist program. Too early to say yet.
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Re: Media NEVER lets us forget it - Holocaust in the 'news'(?)

Post by been-there » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:34 pm

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Never let the masses forget it for a moment.
Keep it in their 'news' day after day, week after week, year after year.
Never forget to tell people to never forget.

That way when they hear the truth they won't be able to believe the scale of the deceit.
Nazis separated me from my parents as a child. The trauma lasts a lifetime
by a 'holoco$t survivor' - Yoka Verdoner
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