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Alfred Schaefer's speech:
Rhine-Meadows Death Camp Memorial event


Bretzenheim
November 25th, 2017


The original speech in German can be viewed in this video that Youtube does not allow the usual facility to link to.
In other words, Youtube has allowed it to be uploaded, BUT they have made it so that it can't easily be shared.



Here is an English translation:

The world-wide awakening, or „Zeitgeist“ is progressing at an explosive rate.
The police officers are here to protect us and guarantee our safety and not to prohibit us from speaking freely.
In the United States of America the most criminal elements are being exposed and their freedom of movement is being limited.
We need to understand and to use this new Zeitgeist.
Today, we are gathered here in remembrance of our ancestors, to honour them, and to mourn for them.
Nobody can stop us from doing this.

Rheinwiesen Lager
Only recently, about 3 years ago, did I first hear anything about these Rhine Meadow Death Camps.
It was Christopher Bollyn, an independent American Journalist, who gave me his copy of „Other Losses“ written by Canadian author James Bacque.
Christopher is the pioneering investigative journalist exposing what actually happened behind the scenes before, during, and after the event of September 11 2001.

In his book, James Bacque describes how AFTER open hostilities had officially ceased in 1945, German prisoners of war had been rounded up and held in huge open fields, fenced in, without any shelter to protect against rain and cold, herded together like cattle.

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As planned, basic food and water was systematically withheld from these prisoners to deliberately let them die as cruelly as possible by starvation and exposure to the elements.
Reading this book triggered my own childhood memories of my Dad’s stories a long time ago. I was one of 5 children, in the 1960’s in Canada. My father had told us of his ordeal as a young medical student. He had been held in one of these camps. He told us about how he had tried to dig a hole in the ground, in the dirt, with a spoon, to find shelter from the elements, but there was no shelter to be found.
He told us about how young men, who had been quite healthy when they arrived, died within days, and how their bodies were taken day after day.
He told us how one of the guards had helped him to escape this camp.
This guard understood that my Dad’s language and medical skills may be more useful outside of this prison camp. This guard was a human being and had some empathy left inside of him. Unfortunately I can not remember any more details from what he was telling us.

For us children the world that our Dad was telling us about was as far away as a different universe.
These stories then disappeared down the memory-hole.

We were living in Canada, in a world of Peace, Prosperity, and Fun.

In hindsight I can vaguely remember the following:
When the book „Other Losses“, by James Bacque was discussed on Canadian radio after its publication in about 1990, my dad was furious that it took over 50 years to even talk about it.
And then it was never again mentioned in the media, and so it vanished from our memory.
Now, back again to the time when I was a little boy. That was a time when, if there happened to be a bully in the school yard who tried to tyrannise us with bad names we protected ourselves with a little song.
Every child in Canada knew this song. It went like this:
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
That was a little children’s song and we were immune against verbal attacks.
And what do we see today?

We are being beaten to the ground, to our knees, with WORDS. We are crawling on the ground full of shame and self hatred.
The Germans and the entire world has been smothered with horrible atrocity propaganda for over one hundred years now.
This is done to destroy our roots, our own heritage. It is done to make it impossible to commemorate our ancestors with dignity, with honour, and with pride.
On a global scale, people are now beginning to understand that the genocide against the German people was nothing more than the first step in a most insidious plan to enslave all the European peoples.
The perpetrators of this plan had fomented and incited the European peoples to destroy their very own heart, namely the German peoples.
The fact that the genocide of the German peoples was the intention all along is proven by documented publications. Whether we look at the plans that the JEW Morgenthau had, or the JEW Theodor Kaufmann with his crude publication titled „Germany must Perish“.
These plans were openly discussed and favourably accepted by the so called victorious „Allies“.
And today this genocidal agenda has been expanded to include all of the European peoples, because it is these peoples who are standing in the way of this monster to rule the planet.
One glance in any of our European cities makes this abundantly clear.

And the point we find ourselves today, where this monster has taken this to, has triggered an awakening. This awakening is GLOBAL.
This biological attack on our white race is being recognized as such!
This recognition is triggering the biological response, which can be observed world wide.

We are supposed to think that we are tiny little and isolated helpless individuals, but that is not so. Everywhere, in all layers of society, in every town, in every street, the people are waking up!!!

As one can observe in Nature, a healing can only begin when the organism that is under attack, recognizes that it is in fact under attack. It is at this point now, that the European peoples find themselves.

It has been the deception that has made it impossible for us to understand and to recognize how all of this fits together and to understand where this is leading to.

The motto of the Israeli secret service is: “By way of deception thou shalt do war”.
The book written by James Bacque about these Rhein Meadow death camps with the title „Other Losses“, describes precisely this aspect of this genocide. How is it possible to murder millions of Germans after open hostilities have officially ended, without anyone taking notice of it.

For us Europeans, it has always been that our greatest challenges have been mastered when we were under pressure.
And now we find ourselves under pressure.
We stand shoulder to shoulder with our backs against the wall.
In all the White countries on this planet.
This existential solidarity is only possible because we now understand the reality and the truth.

We were manipulated to massacre each other with blind hatred until we were drowning in our own blood.
This hatred was based on nothing but lies and incitement.

Unfortunately we can still hear individual voices that are asking for apologies from, for example the English or the Americans, for what happened in Dresden and other cities in Germany. This can not be. Regrets, yes, but no apologies.

Try to imagine the following scenario: I have been manipulated to take a knife and then I stab myself in my own heart. This stab wound is not fatal, as was intended, and I slowly recover from this bizarre attack. Is my hand now guilty? Or is it the monster that has manipulated me to do that?
See, how absurd that is? My hand and my heart are parts of the same body. That is why I say unequivocally, no European needs to apologise by any other European for things that we have done to each other in the past.
We need to UNDERSTAND what has been done to us, and that we need each other.

If we continue to allow ourselves to be manipulated and abused, then we will have to apologise to our own children.

Briefly now on Thinking and Doing.
How was it possible that we were not able to resist this horrible self-mutilation?
Because we were not able to see through it, and that way we allowed ourselves to be abused.

Marked Cards
We now have a situation that is comparable to the following scenario:
You are playing cards in a game that has been going on now for a long long time. The stakes in this game are very high. It is an all or nothing game.
Suddenly you notice that the cards that you are dealt, are marked.
What do you do? You can only lose if you continue this game with these marked cards. Your life depends on this game.
I don’t know what you would do, but I would immediately slap each and every marked card that I found on the table and fiercely demand an explanation.
We have been forced to use words that have the same effect as marked cards.
These words are all those words that the enemy is using the most in the propaganda against us. For example: Hate speech, or Holocaust, or Holocaust denier, or Refugees instead of Invaders, or White supremacist, or anti-Semite. Because everyone now knows that the so called Holocaust is nothing but a insidious lie to extort vast sums of money from us all and to divert attention away from the genocide of the German people. The words are constantly being updated to fit the specific host people.

These words induce guilt complexes and endless justification rituals in the host population with which these are manipulated.
These words are to be treated the same as the marked cards in the game of all or nothing. The stakes are our very survival. Not one of these words can be permitted to go through.

To end this talk, I want to briefly help you to understand the emerging mood in the United States of America. Here is a meme that is making the rounds everywhere throughout the white population.
Do or Die
In the mind of every white American who voted for Donald Trump – whether conscious or unconscious – (and I would add, retrospectively we see Trump completely following the Jewish agenda, a great big disappointment to a great many people who voted for him- M.S.) “make America great again” meant “make America white again.”
We are approaching the defining moment of American history.
It is left to us – just us – to step up and claim rightful ownership of this nation, and to show the people the Jews who stole it from us.
And I will tell you this: it can be done.
Once we have the people behind us, the war is already over. At that point, we can directly – and maybe even peacefully – reclaim everything that was taken from us.
It’s a big job. But it is what all of this has been leading up to.
The final showdown.
Us versus them.
The reason for my great Optimism is that we have now recognized the cause and reason and are able to deal with this, instead of continuing to suffer and doctoring around on the symptoms.

Thank-you

Alfred Schaefer

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Been There, since you've never been to America your opinion on how we think has all been developed and formed from whatever pulp rags you read about us. That and whatever anti-america (read "anti-white people" ) electronic media spouts on the matter. You might say it's akin to the anti-muslim opinions some people have who have never met a muslim, or very few. Or a Jew for that matter.

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rollo the ganger wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:42 pm
Been There, since you've never been to America your opinion on how we think has all been developed and formed from whatever pulp rags you read about us. That and whatever anti-america (read "anti-white people" ) electronic media spouts on the matter. You might say it's akin to the anti-muslim opinions some people have who have never met a muslim, or very few. Or a Jew for that matter.
I agree. Been-there just copy and pastes and plagiarises anything that confirms to his desired beliefs. He has made no effort to do anything approaching original research or to check his sources.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.

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Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:49 pm
I'm reading the various historical publications of the Tyler Kent affair. It confirms for me that the currently consensus view of WW2 history still today remains quite deliberately falsified and impartial.
Tyler Kent is still being portrayed in quite childish pantomine adjectives, e.g. as "a quite horrid man" and "a rotter".
His main wicked crimes being:
a.) that he believed certain collectives of Jews were the main instigators of Bolshevick Communism. Thus he is castigated as an "anti-semite". And
b.) he would rather have had Britain and America united with Germany against the perceived danger of the spread of Stalinist communism. That makes him "horrid". :roll:

The main two deceptions in this continuing portrayal seems to me to be:
1.) the blatantly false depiction of him (and members of the Right Club) as traitors and spys and
2.) the cover-up of the unconsitutional and dishonestly denied nature of the secret correspondence between Roosevelt and Churchill.

Tyler Kent WAS tried in secret and imprisoned in Britain DESPITE him being an American diplomat and therefore having diplomatic immunity. That fact alone demonstrates something very important and potentially damaging was being silenced. If Kent had been deported to America and tried there in public (which was the proper protocol), then there would have been no way of silencing his allegations. I.e. his secret trial and incarceration in a British Jail effectively silenced his extremely damaging proof of Roosevelt's unconstitutional behaviour and lies.

It also would have exposed the same regarding Churchill and his abuse of his position as Chief of the British Admiralty in using the British secret codes. Plus it exposed Churchill of having been involved in treason by secretly going behind his Prime Minister's back AND plotting his downfall with the head of another sovereign nation. If that is not treaonable behaviour what is?

The biggest and most damaging accusation Kent had against Roosevelt was that he was planning a.) how to get America into the war and b.) the conduct of America once they were in the war. All the while publically Roosevelt was lying to his electorate before an election by promising them that he would keep America out of that war.

Despite this, all the accounts I have read (outside of revisionist circles) still claim the exposed secret correspondence was — in hindsight — "innocent".
In this way a deception is maintained that goes hand-in-hand with the holocaust mythology. It goes like this: Hitler is evil because he had concentration camps and labour camps in which millions died. Therefore anyone who saw him as a lesser evil in that 1940's stand-off between white-supremacist capitalism, Communism and Fascist/National Socialism is also to be regarded as 'evil'. Even though in 1940 those millions hadn't been incarcerated let alone died there.

The obvious moral contradiction and deliberate deception being that in 1940 Stalin had also been incarcerating millions in such camps for fifteen years in which many millions HAD died. How in hindsight is the Allied victor-version of history of being sympathetic and allied to that immoral mass-fatality better than opposing what occurred in Axis camps??

It makes no sense WITHOUT the portrayal of Hitler as the ultimate icon of evil. And that portrayal ONLY stands upright if you accept uncritically and obediently the flawed and exaggerated 'holocaust' narrative.

This is why Tyler Kent, Captain Archibald Ramsay, Sir Oswald Mosely, William Joyce, John Amery, The Duke of Windsor, the 5th Duke of Wellington, and all the other patriots favourable to Germany need continue to be portayed as traitors.

That is also why Churchill and Roosevelt still need to be dishonestly portrayed as 'heros' fighting 'evil' even though they were the real traitors in this particular case, who were behaving unconstitutionally and treacherously to their own people.

This deception needs to be maintained BECAUSE if that info had got out at the time, FDR would never have been re-elected, America wouldn't have joined the war, Chamberlain would have remained PM, Churchill would have never become PrimeMinister and the British parliamentarians and Royal family would have succesfully negotiated a peace deal with Germany. The war would have ended in 1940-41. None of the devastation and destruction of Europe would have occurred. Poland would have got back its sovereignty in Hitler's "generous" peace deal. Germany would have got back Danzig (Gdansk) and a corridor to East Prussia. The spread of communism would have been curtailed. No holocaust, no dropping of the Atom bomb, no mass-death by starvation as a result of Churchill's democidal blockade, no mass-murder of Germans by Churchill's carpet-bombing of civilian cities.
The advances in a fairer society initiated by Hitler in Germany based on sound socialist principles serving the majority rather than the few would have spread throughout Europe. The control of banking by greedy unethical international financiers would have been curtailed. The sharing of wealth amongst the working and middle classes away from the greedy grip of a small percentage would have been inaugurated. The standard of living of ALL Europe would have been raised. Hitler's plans for the architectural renovation of the unified German people at the centre of a European unification would have been implemented. The zionist enterprise which was already initiated in agreement with the NSDAP would have been resolved without mass fatalities. Etc., etc., etc.
Here is film of John Amery on a visit to Oslo, Norway in 1944. Interestingly he expresses the same conclusion that I had expressed independently, above.


And here in the same year is film of him addressing an audience in French in Paris in 1944

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Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:57 pm
Hitler did invade Poland. But he did that only after they refused a corridor to East Prussia, refused a plebiscite on Danzig (now Gdansk) and were massacring and persecuting the ethic Germans in former German territory ceded to Poland as a punishment in the Treaty of Versailles after WW1.
What massacres and persecutions?
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Sasquatch wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:32 pm
been-there wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:57 pm
Hitler did invade Poland. But he did that only after they refused a corridor to East Prussia, refused a plebiscite on Danzig (now Gdansk) and were massacring and persecuting the ethic Germans in former German territory ceded to Poland as a punishment in the Treaty of Versailles after WW1.
What massacres and persecutions?
Will you acknowledge that the history you have been taught is deceitful if I provide evidence of which massacres and persecution?

If you will, then its worth my while assisting you in gaining a better, fairer, more accurate understanding.
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they either cease being mistaken
or they cease being honest"
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been-there wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:36 am
Will you acknowledge that the history you have been taught is deceitful if I provide evidence of which massacres and persecution?

If you will, then its worth my while assisting you in gaining a better, fairer, more accurate understanding.
I await your evidence.
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Sasquatch wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:40 pm
been-there wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:36 am
Will you acknowledge that the history you have been taught is deceitful if I provide evidence of which massacres and persecution?

If you will, then its worth my while assisting you in gaining a better, fairer, more accurate understanding.
I await your evidence.
You again dodged my question to you.

Here it is again: Will you acknowledge that the history you have been taught is deceitful if I provide evidence of massacres and persecution by Poles of ethnic Germans living in Poland? Its a simple question. Why have you avoided answering it?
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been-there wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:05 pm
Here it is again: Will you acknowledge that the history you have been taught is deceitful if I provide evidence of massacres and persecution by Poles of ethnic Germans living in Poland? Its a simple question. Why have you avoided answering it?
The impression I get when reading this persons post BT is that it straight from an old history book to present the war in the way that demonizes the Germans and makes the allies look good. All of his syntax, wording seems totally biased as though he has a closed mind. I also get the feeling he is going the same way as the Lochness dude.


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been-there wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:05 pm
You again dodged my question to you.

Here it is again: Will you acknowledge that the history you have been taught is deceitful if I provide evidence of massacres and persecution by Poles of ethnic Germans living in Poland? Its a simple question. Why have you avoided answering it?
Of course, I believe in facts.

I await your evidence.
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