George Zimmerman found innocent

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Re: George Zimmerman found innocent

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blake121666 wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:45 pm
been-there wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:48 am
So... How an unconsciously priviliged white person can use THAT as a story when afro-Americans did most of the work FOR idle whites for hundreds of years merely demonstrates the comple disconnect from reality such white people are operating under.
Wow just wow.

You just show how out of touch with reality you are.

Blacks did not contribute any more to GDP than their population percentage - less in fact. The majority of blacks were involved in the production of export cash crops. The whole world used those exports. So you are then saying that the whole world was "idle" compared to black slaves.

So black supremacy is your view.

There is "privilege" in not being an outlier in a society. Nothing more than that. Black skin is, and will remain, an outlier position in American society. Your "just so" handwaving slavery delusions are being used as excuses. And this is ironic given that you constantly whine about the way Jews use the Holocaust.

It is you who sees nothing but a slave in black persons. And it is you who is in "comple[te] disconnect from reality" about that.

You keep bringing up "300 years of slavery" as if you think there was no slavery before this slavery you are obsessing over. There were black slaves before they were sent to the Western Hemisphere by white Europeans. Why are they left out of your considerations about "300 years"? Doesn't that history have as much to do with the black community as this "300 years" you focus on? What about the 300 years before that? Were the black slaves' ancestors kings who lived in flying pyramids in West Africa before this "300 years"? Those "300 years" are the be all and end all of their existence for you aren't they, BT?

Black people can never shake those "300 years" with you, can they? It is the definition of both black and white people to you isn't it? This is crazy - and you are crazy.
You misunderstand.

And you appear unable to empathise.
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Re: George Zimmerman found innocent

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Police release body cam footage of US cops shooting
a thirteen year old autistic child 11 times
.

ELEVEN shots fired!!! :? :evil:

Any of you guys want to try and justify this one?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 767759002/
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Re: George Zimmerman found innocent

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been-there wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:46 pm
Police release body cam footage of US cops shooting
a thirteen year old autistic child 11 times
.

ELEVEN shots fired!!! :? :evil:

Any of you guys want to try and justify this one?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 767759002/
Fucking incompetent morons. Those cops should be shot to death.

https://www.wcax.com/2020/09/22/graphic ... r-old-boy/

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Re: George Zimmerman found innocent

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I have a better question:

Will ANYONE on here accept that QUALIFIED IMMUNITY HAS TO FUCKING GO?

I am so SICK AND TIRED of those on the right IGNORING THIS PROBLEM and so many act like there are NO corrupt police officers. It's really annoying.

I get the same type of anger when I see regressive liberals IGNORING DISPROPORTIONATE MUSLIM CRIME RATES IN EUROPE!

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Re: George Zimmerman found innocent

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Been-there is scared of this post where I responded to direct quotations from his "defunding" article. He also had no answer. Just like his stupid article. :lol:
Werd wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:17 am
Werd wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:36 am
been-there wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:55 pm
As just explained in a cartoon and a written explanation, defunding the police does not mean abolishing them.
Last time I checked, police needed money via taxes to pay for uniforms, guns, tazers, cars, radios, computers, evidence storage units, salaries...

1. What are they getting too much money for?
and thus,
2. what are they going to have to go without or have less of and why is it acceptable and not going to interfere with the performance of their duties?
3. How will that stop racism? Like some racist cop will go, "Oh we're losing supplies or our salaries are going down. I guess I better stop using the N word."
:roll:
4. Why can't we take money away from funding Israel for one or two years in America instead?
5. And why didn't been-there, the noted anti-Zionist think of that before I did? :lol:

Regressive liberals talk a good game and use big words to impress in order to extricate themselves from having to actually explain what they mean and provide any meaningful details. It's a good trick. Conservative scumbags like to filibuster all the time in government. Liberals do it in the press.
The first three questions were not answered by been-there OR the link he provided. So I will have to do my best at guessing.
Instead of paying for such things as extensive officer overtime and expensive military equipment, cities should reallocate that money to a city’s social services, such as mental health, education, and housing.
So don't pay officers overtime? Gee, how fucking nice. Yeah, that'll really make people want to be cops to stop the crime. :roll:
By increasing funding for these other services, activists maintain that a city can more safely, effectively, and properly address underlying problems that lead to the very crime and violence the police are tasked with addressing—and which has persistently resulted in the use of force against Black people.
"Don't commit crimes. Don't resist arrest." - liberal Democrat youtuber atheism-is-unstoppable

Why don't we ask blacks if they want less cops or a more impotent police force? Apparently a lot of them don't.
In other words, fund a social worker, teacher, job or money coach, or health professional to help a person before their challenges lead to a moment of crisis that requires a police officer.
What the fuck does this babbling bullshit even mean? One example please.
Defunding the police, the thinking goes, will help break cycles of violence.
How about don't commit crimes and don't resist arrest? How about that? How about we hold blacks accountable for their shitty family life that plague so much of the community? I already addressed that and been-there skipped RIGHT OVER IT. So here it is again:
Werd wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:42 am
been-there wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:17 am
By increasing funding for these other services, activists maintain that a city can more safely, effectively, and properly address underlying problems that lead to the very crime and violence the police are tasked with addressing — and which has persistently resulted in the use of force against Black people.
And just like a liberal, you REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE why the black communities ARE TRULY fucked up the way they are.

Too many black women pumping out kids with different daddies who are absentee fathers and creating too many children that LACK PROPER MALE ROLE MODELS. WHY ARE BLACK WOMEN BEING FINANCIALLY REWARDED WITH WELFARE FOR CREATING FATHERLESS HOMES WHICH ARE DAMAGING TO YOUNG BOYS? Push abortion and perhaps incentive based eugenics as comedian Doug Stanhope suggested. A form of soft population control if blacks can't stop fucking without a proper marriage and stable two parent household. FINANCIALLY REWARD ABORTION AND TYING ONE'S TUBES, NOT RECKLESS CHILDBIRTH!
That's just part of the post. Notice the been-there quote tag in there. So he got a notification of this post of mine. He ignored it. Why? because it attempts to hold blacks accountable for the shit they DO do. Something been-there is not interested in because he thinks that the rest of my post, which shows conspiratorial plots against blacks, THEREFORE absolves blacks of rational decision making and their horrible fucked up family lives without stable fathers. Sorry. Easily obtainable welfare and pushing girl power and single motherhood as the best model have nothing to do with CIA planted cocaine on the streets. Women can close their legs and get abortions. No sympathy for how they're breeding like rabbits without good daddies.
Werd wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:42 am
here is ANOTHER ASPECT that liberals don't acknowledge. Mainly due to ignorance:

Illegal drugs, guns and ammo. ALL BROUGHT IN BY THE CIA FROM FOREIGN LANDS, GIVEN TO CORRUPT FREEMASONIC COPS TO DISTRIBUTE AMONG BLACK GANG LEADERS WHO GET INITIATED IN WHITE LODGES AND TOLD KEEP THIS SHIT IN YOUR NEIGHBOURHOODS OR YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL AND WE'LL STOP LOOKING THE OTHER WAY!

Wait a minute? Me looking at the problems in the black community and not blaming genetics and calling them animals or inferior? Me blaming outside white forces? That's interesting. I guess I AM a liberal and a non-racist despite many past false accusations from people like Nessie, Montgomery2 and been-there. :roll:

Until people study up on how drugs move, who moves them and what interlocking centuries old bloodlines that participate in this and still do to this day via corruption in media, military, transportation, justice system, masonry, the ROOT OF THE PROBLEM IS NEVER GOING TO BE TRULY EXPOSED! People who slag this stuff off as "conspiracy nonsense" and don't give it a second look and do everything they can to discourage looking into this stuff actually cause harm to the black community.
Been-there hates people who talk common sense because they constantly show him up. ESPECIALLY if they he is getting checked by someone in his own liberal camp.
The Minneapolis City Council concluded that the city’s police force had such a pattern of racism it needed to build a new policing system from the bottom up rather than change its existing one from within. While the council has not yet submitted specific plans, it is looking into what is largely referred to as community-led policing and public safety, which involves a closer partnership between the police and the public it oversees.
George Floyd aside, don't commit crimes. Don't resist arrest. 13/50.
Qualified immunity is a legal doctrine dating back to a 1967 Supreme Court case. It is meant to protect government officials from lawsuits alleging they violated someone’s rights when performing their duties in a reasonable manner.

This immunity is qualified—that is, “restricted, limited,” not absolute—because a government official can still be held personally liable if it’s determined that they violated clearly established rights.

Since the early 2000s, many critics of qualified immunity feel it has been abused to shield police officers from accountability for the use of excessive force. That is, qualified immunity has wrongly given police officers impunity, “exemption from punishment,” critics argue.
Since this is case law, how the fuck does defunding police over-write this? IT DOESN'T! Again, this ties into those first 3 questions I asked that been-there dodged on purpose. If you want to eliminate qualified immunity, TAKE IT TO CONGRESS AND PUSH THE POLITICIANS TO GET RID OF IT. DON'T TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM COPS WHO NEED RESOURCES TO COMBAT RIOTERS IN THE STREETS! HOW DOES TAKING AWAY RESOURCES PREVENT COPS FROM STILL USING A LAW THAT IS ON THE BOOKS??? IT DOESN'T! IT'S STILL THERE NO MATTER HOW MANY OF A BUDGET CITY POLICE GET! :roll:

This is what I mean, when I saw there is a lack of common sense among a lot of 21st century liberals that don't understand basic 80's and 90's common sense. I often hate that I have so many liberal tendencies because it puts me in the same camp as the regressive idiots.

Now I don't usually cite gay furries who are comedians, but DAMN, this makes sense!

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Been-there also dodges my two points in red and he refuses to answer the questions I have at the bottom of this post. He FALSELY VIRTUE SIGNALS that he is the only one interested in debate and a two way discussion WHILE IGNORING MY QUESTIONS THAT I AM HONESTLY ASKING IN A SERIOUS MANNER!
Werd wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:36 am
been-there wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:34 am
Werd wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:17 am
been-there wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:55 pm
As just explained in a cartoon and a written explanation, defunding the police does not mean abolishing them.
That's just part of the post. Notice the been-there quote tag in there. So he got a notification of this post of mine. He ignored it. Why?
Because you have shown yourself to be incapable of rational, reasonable dialogue.
DIALOGUE! Y'know, where we try to correctly understand the other's point of view BEFORE we respond to it.
Here's the offending post that been-there claims demonstrates that I'm failing at understanding someone's point of view - although he didn't specify who I was misunderstanding. He just said it and walked away. :lol: Truth is, I was just dropping the following two nuclear bombs to hopefully bring some sanity back to the conversation since he and turnagain were both talking past each other and accomplishing nothing! Well that and been-there's defunding article influenced thinking about social programs WEREN'T ADDRESSING THE TWO MAIN ROOT CAUSES OF THE PROBLEMS WITH AFRICAN AMERICANS! He AND his article were both guilty of not mentioning the following:

Been-there runs away from me saying that too many black women are acting like whores and sucking up welfare rewards for fathering kids without good daddies. He won't challenge it. Shall I accept his concession on the matter?

Been-there runs away from me saying that the CIA via masonry and corrupt police officers and masonic initiated black gangsters put crack in the streets to further wreck black communities. He won't challenge it. Shall I accept his concession on the matter?
been-there wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:34 am
You repeatedly engage in monologue where you argue against your own distorted misrepresentation/miscomprehension.
Been-there recommends I read a "defunding" article. I do. I then DIRECTLY QUOTE parts of it and respond to it. I fail to see where the distortion and misrepresentation happens. Been-there is welcome to challenge my two views directly anytime and my responses to his "defunding" article anytime. Until then, all he's doing is virtue signaling about how much he cares about debate while simultaneously refusing to actually engage in it.

Maybe been-there has a problem with what I said in the offending post:
And just like a liberal, you REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE why the black communities ARE TRULY fucked up the way they are.
And then came those two points above.

If Been-there's complaint is that he AGREES with those two points in red and that I was quick to say he didn't acknowledge them a page or two previous in this topic so said offending post of mine, he can easily show me which post of his said those two points and I will apologize formally for implying that he missed those factors.

If Been-there's complaint is that he has said them ELSEWHERE on this board on rodoh and I am ignorant of that, he can link me to said older posts of his and I will apologize and admit been-there has discussed those two things.

He is free to clarify his position on those two matters anytime and he is free to respond to my response to his "defunding" article anytime. The more he ignores it, the more it's clear that the debate is over and I won it with my two points that even turnagain would not acknowledge. At which point I would suggest a new topic be started, and linked to, which discusses intelligence agency drug dealing.
He is free to clarify anytime

he is also

free to respond anytime

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b-t is a social nutzoid, Werd. You aren't going to get a rational response out of him about niggers. Flog that dead horse from now til forever but you won't change that.

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In the last years of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th, King Leopold II of Belgium ruled the Congo Free State with a tyranny that was peculiarly brutal even by the cruel and deeply racist standards of European colonialism in Africa. He ran the country – now known as the Democratic Republic of Congo – as a personal fiefdom, looting ivory and rubber and murdering millions before the international community stepped in to demand he bequeath the country to the Belgian state.

Yet debate over his legacy has remained muted in Belgium, where hundreds of roads are named after the king along with memorials dedicated to his memory and glory.

Now, under pressure from a growing movement that believes Belgium needs to confront its past, attitudes in the corridors of power are starting to change. As part of a belated reckoning with its colonial history, museums are showcasing sins that were previously overlooked, the tone of history books in school is shifting and, in a development unthinkable until recently, cities have started to remove street signs commemorating Leopold II and openly denounce his legacy.

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Belgian King Leopold II who ruled the Congo with a tyranny that was peculiarly brutal even by the cruel and deeply racist standards of European colonialism in Africa

The council of Kortrijk, in west Flanders, has said it is renaming its Leopold II Laan [avenue] on the grounds the monarch was a “mass murderer”. Officials in Dendermonde, a Flemish city 20 miles north of Brussels, said they were changing a similarly named street to simply Leopold Laan to avoid further “shame” for residents. Elsewhere, a working group in Ghent is considering the city’s role in Belgium’s colonial past and whether it remains appropriate to have a Leopold II Laan. The mayor of Bruges, Dirk de Fauw, said he was assessing the situation. “If other cities start with it, it could trigger a chain reaction, but there are no plans yet,” he told the Het Nieuwsblad newspaper.

While some municipalities are holding out, the reappraisal offers further evidence of a sea change in how the colonial history is viewed.

Earlier this year a UN working group concluded in its preliminary report that, nearly six decades after the newly named DRC gained independence from Belgium, many of the country’s institutions remained racist and the state needed to apologise for the sins of its past as a step towards reform. The then prime minister Charles Michel said the government would respond when the UN filed its final report, although he expressed some surprise at the findings. Activists say an important step towards acknowledging the past was made last year when Brussels named a square in honour of Patrice Lumumba, the first prime minister of the DRC, who was assassinated in 1961 with the connivance of the Belgian government. It had taken 10 years of campaigning by the Congolese diaspora and others for the city authority to give its approval. Panels giving information about Leopold II have also been attached to most of his statues in recent years.

Jeroen Robbe ...said too many municipal leaders were still failing to show moral leadership: “The fact they are taking this so lightly indicates a blind spot that we have in our own history. Not a priority? Nobody would dare say that about a Stalin Street or a Hitler Street. The difference is not the size of the horror, but the skin colour of the victims.
We have to change the street names and add an explanation to it, so that we don’t hide away the past.”

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... leopold-ii

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I am not sure what the Belgian Congo has to do with the George Zimmerman acquittal, but the graphic below is definitely relevant to lionized African gutter punks like Trayvon Martin.

:)

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Re: George Zimmerman found innocent

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Scott wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:11 pm
I am not sure what the Belgian Congo has to do with the George Zimmerman acquittal, but the graphic below is definitely relevant to lionized African gutter punks like Trayvon Martin.

:)

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Sheesh, Scott!!! :?

That you don’t get the connection between the past and the present I suggest is a BIG part of the problem.

It is like you walked into a cinema or a theatre an hour after the start of the film or play and within five minutes have formed fixed and inflexible opinions on the characters and their behaviour without acknowledging you know nothing of what happened before or why they might be acting the way they are nor what they might be responding to.
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