How Did Hitler Die?

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How Did Hitler Die?

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For all the talk about the holocaust, it seems as though discussion on the cause of death of Hitler is seldom mentioned. Which raises the question, how did Hitler die? Was he poisoned, or did he shoot himself?

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Kitty Love 456 wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:23 pm
For all the talk about the holocaust, it seems as though discussion on the cause of death of Hitler is seldom mentioned. Which raises the question, how did Hitler die? Was he poisoned, or did he shoot himself?
Whether AH committed suicide or spent the rest of his days in Argentina is unknown. There are claims for each scenario but real evidence is in short supply. The skull that the Soviets said was Hitler's turned out to be that of a woman. There was even a "Twilight Zone" episode about Hitler still working as a violent revolutionary. Who knows?

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:43 pm
There was even a "Twilight Zone" episode about Hitler still working as a violent revolutionary. Who knows?
I think that is demeaning. Der Führer was a war hero and very brave from all accounts. He never surrendered. Dental remains found on Hitler's corpse were matched with his dental records in 1945. It is likely the other accounts as poison or escape are propaganda. While Eva took cyanide Hitler shot himself.

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Several witnesses later reported that they heard a loud gunshot at approximately 15:30. After waiting a few minutes, Hitler's valet, Heinz Linge, opened the study door with Bormann at his side. Linge later stated that he immediately noted a scent of burnt almonds, which is a common observation in the presence of prussic acid (hydrogen cyanide). Hitler's adjutant, SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche, entered the study and found the two lifeless bodies on the sofa. Eva, with her legs drawn up, was to Hitler's left and slumped away from him. Günsche stated that Hitler "sat ... sunken over, with blood dripping out of his right temple. He had shot himself with his own pistol, a Walther PPK 7.65.


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Hunt, how were the dental records matched if nobody has the actual skull of AH? The one that the Soviets claimed to be AH's turned out to be the skull of a woman. I rather like the scenario of AH escaping and living out his remaining years in a German enclave in Argentina. In any case, he avoided capture and the ultimate humiliations that would have been heaped on him by his enemies.

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:09 pm
Hunt, how were the dental records matched if nobody has the actual skull of AH? The one that the Soviets claimed to be AH's turned out to be the skull of a woman. I rather like the scenario of AH escaping and living out his remaining years in a German enclave in Argentina. In any case, he avoided capture and the ultimate humiliations that would have been heaped on him by his enemies.
Can't see how the dental records could match anyone else. He gave a gift to the world that juden tried to take away and in my opinion died as the man of great integrity he was. He ordered that others grasp the flag in their fist as he did when he dragged it out from no where. His time was over and he died honorably.


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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:09 pm
Hunt, how were the dental records matched if nobody has the actual skull of AH? The one that the Soviets claimed to be AH's turned out to be the skull of a woman. I rather like the scenario of AH escaping and living out his remaining years in a German enclave in Argentina. In any case, he avoided capture and the ultimate humiliations that would have been heaped on him by his enemies.
Had Hitler been of a mind to flee, he would have fled earlier when the odds were better. He tried to orchestrate a military comeback to save Berlin until the end when he no longer received replies.

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Admiral E. Rastus wrote:
Had Hitler been of a mind to flee, he would have fled earlier when the odds were better. He tried to orchestrate a military comeback to save Berlin until the end when he no longer received replies.
So it would seem but real evidence is lacking.

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Huntinger wrote:
Can't see how the dental records could match anyone else.
What dental records? Who actually possesses AH's skull?

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Turnagain wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:09 pm
Hunt, how were the dental records matched if nobody has the actual skull of AH? The one that the Soviets claimed to be AH's turned out to be the skull of a woman. I rather like the scenario of AH escaping and living out his remaining years in a German enclave in Argentina. In any case, he avoided capture and the ultimate humiliations that would have been heaped on him by his enemies.
(Oh boy!) Hitler never ran away to Argentina! :roll:

Holy moly! :?

Anyone who considers that nonsense to be even possibly accurate shows they know nothing about Hitler, nor anything about simple research, (nor critical thinking).

Just do a little investigation.
In the internet age, ignorance is a choice.

The Soviets kept the pieces of skull, jaw, teeth and dentures of Hitler that they had recovered, locked away.
The Soviets lied and deceived for decades after 1945.
But... You already know this Mr. T.

It was Stalin who created the myth that Hitler had escaped to Argentina. And it was Stalin who kept the empirical proof that this was a lie, concealed from the world.
Stalin wanted to assure himself that Hitler was dead, but he also wanted to keep everyone else — the Americans, the British and even some of his own Generals — unsure and confused.

Stalin and the Soviets had control of the territory where Hitler killed himself. Berlin remained under their control until the Potsdam conference on July 1945. Even after it was divided into four zones, the district around the Chancellery, where the Führerbunker was located, remained under Soviet control.

They also had in their prisons three chief witnesses. The Soviets captured, interrogated and tortured Heinz Linge, Otto Gunsche, and Hans Bauer for eleven years until 1956 to try and get them to ‘crack’ IF they were covering up an escape. They never ‘cracked’ because they had told the truth.
I suggest people read their accounts before they start gullibly speculating whether Stalin’s ‘Argentina’ lie has any truth to it.

In March and July 2017, Russia's secret service the FSB and the Russian state archives allowed a team of French researchers to examine the bones and teeth they had recovered from Hitler’s cremation.

You can access the report here.

Professor Philippe Charlier was given access to the teeth kept in the Russian State Archives and was able to empirically prove that the teeth were genuine, and that they matched X-rays showing Hitler’s teeth that the Yanks took and archived in Berkeley, California.

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X-rays of Hitler's head, taken in the autumn of 1944, after the 20th July ‘operation Valkyrie’ bomb, assassination attempt

http://historian-at-large.blogspot.com/ ... tator.html

There are very few photos that show Hitler's teeth. From the few that exist showing his teeth with him smiling it appears that he had a damaged left-front tooth. The relatively recent (2017) release of images of the teeth and skull fragments kept in Russia, when compared to these photos, confirm they are Hitler’s.
It’s well-documented that the Nazi leader had ...a complicated set of bridges and dentures. That, according to the forensic team, made ID’ing his jawbone relatively simple. The teeth appear to match X-rays taken of Hitler in 1944 and descriptions provided to the Soviets by Hitler’s dentist and his dental assistant.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... died-1945-
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The skull fragment has a hole on the left side which corroborates the witness testimony that it was caused by the bullet Hitler fired into his temple to end his life.

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It was an innaccurate American ‘story’ (a University of Connecticut study), which in 2009 caused a sensation by claiming that the skull fragment with a bullet hole had female DNA. The 2017 French analysis refuted that!
...the fragment's morphology was "totally comparable" to radiographies of Hitler's skull taken a year before his death.
So... Witness testimony supported by empirical evidence = historical truth!

Er... not like the mythological, exaggerated, mercanised, quasi-religious, pseudo-historical, legally protected, holocaust mass-gassing narrative! :ugeek:
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b-t wrote:
In March and July 2017, Russia's secret service the FSB and the Russian state archives allowed a team of French researchers to examine the bones and teeth they had recovered from Hitler’s cremation.

You can access the report here.
I was unaware of the actions of the FSB in 2017 and the report is behind a paywall. Yep, sounds like AH did in fact bite the big one in Berlin during 1945. However, rumors persist and I do like the scenario of AH living out his life in South America whether it's true or not. Try to bear in mind that I've never said that was any more than a possible scenario that I liked, not a claim to knowing the absolute truth about the fate of AH.

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