The flaws in denier arguments

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Re: The flaws in denier arguments

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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:14 pm
At the time of the IRC's visit to A-B there weren't any AR camps. Duh!
I know. Why were they not given access to the Kremas in 1944 to end rumours of gassings at A-B?

In 1942-3, when the first Polish reports of mass killings at the AR camps appeared, why did the Nazis not allow independent visits then to those camps to end the claims? Why did the Nazis only allow independent visits to Katyn in 1943 and not the AR camps?
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Re: The flaws in denier arguments

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Nessie wrote:
Why did the Nazis only allow independent visits to Katyn in 1943 and not the AR camps?
Why did the chicken cross the road? More of Nessie's "what if" the Germans did this? They "coulda" done that and so on with his endless and mindless "what ifs" and "coulda woulda".

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Nessie wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:21 pm
Why did the Nazis only allow independent visits to Katyn in 1943 and not the AR camps?
There are about a thousand konzentrationslager in the Reich; why on earth would people interested in the murder of Polish Intelligentsia be concerned about prisoners? This is the same as asking a correspondent looking at the Salisbury poisonings why he or she did not look at the conditions of HMP Whitemoor prison due to the dangerous conditions.


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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:29 pm
Nessie wrote:
Why did the Nazis only allow independent visits to Katyn in 1943 and not the AR camps?
Why did the chicken cross the road? More of Nessie's "what if" the Germans did this? They "coulda" done that and so on with his endless and mindless "what ifs" and "coulda woulda".
IOW, the Nazis could have quite easily ended rumours of mass killings, but they chose to not allow any independent visits to the AR camps or Kremas, even though they had allowed independent visits to Katyn. The reason why you dodge the question is because the answer is that the Nazis had something to hide at the AR camps and A-B kremas.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
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Nessie wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:37 pm
IOW, the Nazis could have quite easily ended rumours of mass killings, but they chose to not allow any independent visits to the AR camps or Kremas, even though they had allowed independent visits to Katyn.
There was a war going on; the Führer couldn't care less about childish rumours spouted by juden.


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Huntinger wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:34 pm
Nessie wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:21 pm
Why did the Nazis only allow independent visits to Katyn in 1943 and not the AR camps?
There are about a thousand konzentrationslager in the Reich; why on earth would people interested in the murder of Polish Intelligentsia be concerned about prisoners? This is the same as asking a correspondent looking at the Salisbury poisonings why he or she did not look at the conditions of HMP Whitemoor prison due to the dangerous conditions.
You allege the Soviets destroyed the evidence the AR camps were transit camps. In 1943, when AR camps were still open, the Nazis allowed visits to Katyn. Why not also allow visits to the AR camps and end claims they were death camps?
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
My actual argument viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

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Huntinger wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:39 pm
Nessie wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:37 pm
IOW, the Nazis could have quite easily ended rumours of mass killings, but they chose to not allow any independent visits to the AR camps or Kremas, even though they had allowed independent visits to Katyn.
There was a war going on; the Führer couldn't care less about childish rumours spouted by juden.
It was Polish Intelligence who were claiming mass gassings.
Consistency and standards in evidencing viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2721#p87772
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Nessie wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:39 pm
You allege the Soviets destroyed the evidence the AR camps were transit camps. In 1943, when AR camps were still open, the Nazis allowed visits to Katyn. Why not also allow visits to the AR camps and end claims they were death camps?
There were more border camps than you know. There was more to do than allow people visit konzentrationslager just in case some juden started rumours; they would start at another border camp, or as soon as the officials left they would say the murders resumed or something asinine. Some death border camps were soon forgotten about by the popular press and juden, including soviets never to rear their deaths heads again.
It was Polish Intelligence who were claiming mass gassings.
The Reich was well aware who was doing what; when caught they were dealt with appropriately.


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Nessie wrote:
It was Polish Intelligence who were claiming mass gassings.
The Poles were claiming mass poaching with steam.

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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:32 pm
Nessie wrote:
It was Polish Intelligence who were claiming mass gassings.
The Poles were claiming mass poaching with steam.
The same rumours were a part of the WWI scenario; the black propaganda of the time. It was not the Polish Intelligence but jüdische skulduggery; the same rumours were spreading in Hungary and Rumania; even Peter Lantos at 12 years old heard them. The result of this was not opposition but the expression of jüdische depression which resulted in loss of will and suicides; the lack of will to live, causing disease and expression of other congenital defects. There were many expressions of Oy vey. The father of jude Lantos perished in Buchenwald entirely due to his squandering of rations for cigarettes on the black market; similar stories are told in all of the ghettos where juden ran the economy to the detriment of those weaker than themselves.

The Germans spent mega marks on trying to keep these people resembling vermin alive with hair cuts, clean clothes, pristine clean quarters, disinfestation and work experience, all of which was lacking prior to internment. It is only juden who can turn the tools used to help them into weapons of mass murder.


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