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Value of the CODOH Forum

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:04 am
by Callahan
Hello All,

I am new here but I have been roaming around the CODOH forum for a year or two shy of a decade... I have seen it discussed here before but for those who are not aware, the CODOH forum is moderated in an apparently biased way. If you post on the following at the CODOH forum, you are more likely to have your post deleted:

1. Posts which harshly refute an argument made by Hannover or humiliate him
2. Posts which criticize white nationalism or seek to distance it from Revisionism
3. Posts which intend to exhibit the quantity of documentation for a particular claim of the Holocaust (rather than discussing the quality or validity of any specific document or its stated implications)
4. Posts which assume credibility to witnesses that lack corroboration from credible sources

Side note: it's generally believed but not yet confirmed that Hannover is the moderator at the CODOH forum.

The first two points above are an obvious problem and even served to dissuade me from Revisionism a bit when I first recognized it as a young 'padawan' in this field. But ultimately, after lots of research of my own, I recognized the intellectual honesty and authority of Revisionism overall and frequently made it back to the CODOH forum for convenience's sake and relevant updates.

As for points #3 and #4 above, I believe there is actually very good reason for the moderator (Hannover?) deleting/regulating these sort of posts...

The legally-enforced monopoly of Holocaust propagandists over WW2 historiography has had 75+ years and gazillions of dollars to promote it's international echo chamber which now consists of--in addition to boundless propaganda--tens of thousands of books which fuel the confirmation bias and religious-level cognitive dissonance of indoctrinated Holocaust scholars (and vice-versa). These scholars, over 75+ years, have published their interpretations of the thousands of cherry-picked (or, in some cases, downright fabricated) contemporary and post-war reports, diaries, etc. they could get their hands on. And they did all of this, of course, with relatively zero criticism along the way--I mean this in two ways:

1. They did not criticize their sources [proportional to what occurs for other topics enjoying academic freedom and absence of propaganda-driven social pressures]
2. What they published was not criticized [" ... "]

And so, there is literal TONS of shit-quality Holocaust literature with near-zero academic integrity or worth.

Since Revisionists have consistently won debates that bring focus to the value of source criticism and levels of evidence, these misled scholars are forced to rely on sheer volume in their debates, spinning webs with it in a hopeful effort for the audience to perceive some form of evidentiary "convergence" in how it all connects. When it comes to Revisionists debating Holocaust™ scholars, this is not the exception--it's the rule. You might be the better artist but it might not matter if the other guy has all the Crayons.

And so, I think recognizing this exterminationist tactic many years back became the basis for the style of moderation we see at CODOH. The moderator (Hannover?), despite also being petty and self-motivated in defending himself and his own political agenda (which is a huge problem, no doubt), simply does not allow time for those who do not acknowledge the utmost importance of source criticism and the levels of evidence which take priority (i.e. physical, forensic, empirical evidence and undisputed documentation ahead of any amount of testimony and documents from dubious sources).

Certainly at the time the CODOH forum first came about, there was a need for this type of forum--a place where people can finally see all in one place discussions which illustrate the quality of Revisionist ideas without the pollution and bombardment of Holocaust™ believers and/or deceivers spamming 70+ years of unrefined, historical garbage out of their back pocket. And for perhaps the first time existed a public place where the forbidden "deniers" could actually be heard over the noise.

Perhaps as Revisionism gains more manpower and time to "catch up" in addressing the amassed quantity of Holo-garbage, or at least in illustrating the recurring patterns of lies within... there will be less of a need for any strict moderation at the CODOH forum. But I don't think anyone who values Revisionism can say it hasn't been pretty invaluable thus far, despite its obvious flaws.

I am still rather unacquainted with this forum (RODOH) but it is nice to see a greater balance of both "sides", here. I am looking forward to more knowledge.

Kind regards,
Callahan

Re: Value of the CODOH Forum

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:16 am
by Huntinger
Callahan wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:04 am
Perhaps as Revisionism gains more manpower and time to "catch up" in addressing the amassed quantity of Holo-garbage, or at least in illustrating the recurring patterns of lies within... there will be less of a need for any strict moderation at the CODOH forum. But I don't think anyone who values Revisionism can say it hasn't been pretty invaluable thus far, despite its obvious flaws.

I am still rather unacquainted with this forum (RODOH) but it is nice to see a greater balance of both "sides", here. I am looking forward to more knowledge.
Hi Callahan, welcome to RODOH. I suspect this post will be moved to the Lounge, "Introductions" as this part of the forum is specifically to discuss Holocaust things.
That aside, I agree with you that CODOH is over moderated to a point of totalitarianism which is off putting to the average person who wishes to get involved discussing the alleged holocaust fraud fostered upon humanity. Some people I know had their accounts removed for no reason at all, while others were simply waiting for confirmation of joining which never arrived.
No doubt their moderator will come here shortly to defend CODOH with a name like Perkie, Frankie, Nancie or something like that; saying how good it is; a place of acceptance and free speech. As you know none of this is true. I think they do Revisionism a huge deal of harm, though some of the resources are excellent. Most posters here ignore their existence as being inconsequential.
I hope you enjoy your stay here and the contribution that you make to the vexing issues.

Re: Value of the CODOH Forum

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:32 am
by Callahan
Huntinger wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:16 am
Hi Callahan, welcome to RODOH. I suspect this post will be moved to the Lounge, "Introductions" as this part of the forum is specifically to discuss Holocaust things.
I hope it isn't moved, as I intended very little of it as an introduction. The rest definitely pertains to the Holocaust and means used to sustain its perceived authority (and how CODOH has helped break through that).
That aside, I agree with you that CODOH is over moderated to a point of totalitarianism which is off putting to the average person who wishes to get involved discussing the alleged holocaust fraud fostered upon humanity. Some people I know had their accounts removed for no reason at all, while others were simply waiting for confirmation of joining which never arrived.
No doubt their moderator will come here shortly to defend CODOH with a name like Perkie, Frankie, Nancie or something like that; saying how good it is; a place of acceptance and free speech. As you know none of this is true. I think they do Revisionism a huge deal of harm, though some of the resources are excellent. Most posters here ignore their existence as being inconsequential.
I hope you enjoy your stay here and the contribution that you make to the vexing issues.
:lol: I have seen him here as "Lily". Embarrassing.

Thanks for the warm welcome, much appreciated. The politically and personally motivated aspects of the moderation there are no doubt harmful but it's good to see you also acknowledge the valuable resources to be found. I think much of that would not have been possible without some "filtration" of the exterminationist spamming that would have occurred otherwise and repeatedly derailed or misdirected the productive discussions that developed... but I cannot deny that the moderation (Hannover) lacks a reasonable semblance of integrity.

Re: Value of the CODOH Forum

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:12 am
by Turnagain
Yep, moderation at the CODOH forum is a bit heavy handed. RODOH is more relaxed which results in threads sometimes going off topic. Wildly so on occasion but CODOH could benefit from a slightly less rigorous approach with a "Siberian Exile" section for offending posts rather than just deleting them.

The rigid debate rules at CODOH also makes it possible for hoaxers to escape the forum when they inevitably begin to lose the debate. Obnoxious posts are simply deleted which allows the hoaxer to boast that CODOH banned them or deleted their posts due to the brilliance and overwhelming logic of their posts. Since there's no record of the offending posts they can do so with impunity.

At any rate, welcome aboard, Callahan. There's usually something going on here and when all else fails, you can go to "Siberian Exile" and see Nessie whine about "evidence" and "where did they gooooo?" for some mean entertainment. Cheers!

Re: Value of the CODOH Forum

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:17 am
by Huntinger
Turnagain wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:12 am
Yep, moderation at the CODOH forum is a bit heavy handed. RODOH is more relaxed which results in threads sometimes going off topic. Wildly so on occasion but CODOH could benefit from a slightly less rigorous approach with a "Siberian Exile" section for offending posts rather than just deleting them.

The rigid debate rules at CODOH also makes it possible for hoaxers to escape the forum when they inevitably begin to lose the debate. Obnoxious posts are simply deleted which allows the hoaxer to boast that CODOH banned them or deleted their posts due to the brilliance and overwhelming logic of their posts. Since there's no record of the offending posts they can do so with impunity.

At any rate, welcome aboard, Callahan. There's usually something going on here and when all else fails, you can go to "Siberian Exile" and see Nessie whine about "evidence" and "where did they gooooo?" for some mean entertainment. Cheers!
The complaints I know about is not just the posts being deleted but the moderator has taken a leaf out of Pyrrho book of mediocre moderation, ban em or don't let em in. Callahan may be disappointed due to the promise Nessie has made to the world.
Nessie said the following:
Nessie wrote: I doubt I will post at RODOH again.
I only hope it keeps its promises.

Re: Value of the CODOH Forum

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:59 am
by Turnagain
Nessie has the distinction of having posts banned/locked at CODOH, RODOH and the Skeptics forum and still maintains that it's all somebody else's fault. How can anyone be so lacking in self-awareness? There are mountains of evidence against the premise of gassing/suffocating at the AR camps which he airily dismisses and declares that revisionists have no evidence whatsoever. He then goes on to state "revisionists have no evidence" and begins his "A not B" diatribe.

Oh well, no use rehashing the sins of Nessie. I do find it unusual that he apparently totally lacks the ability for introspection. No "inner voice" saying, "Wait a minute, is this really true?". As Blake said at the Klown's forum, he just blunders ahead with his "finger wagging" arguments. At least we don't have to put up with it any more here at RODOH. A small blessing.

Re: Value of the CODOH Forum

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:33 am
by Huntinger
Turnagain wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:59 am
Nessie has the distinction of having posts banned/locked at CODOH, RODOH and the Skeptics forum and still maintains that it's all somebody else's fault. How can anyone be so lacking in self-awareness?
Lupus is following a close second (we all know who Lupus is and the challenges it has faced); in fact all of the hoaxers who have posted here, follow the same maladaptive line of discussion ending up in sneering and abuse. I believe this is primarily because they know they have nothing else to fall back on; the mountain of evidence they claim exists vanishes like the will o wisp when questioned politely. This is why they solely rely on lie witnesses and adminicles but nothing solid; they then make the assumption the only reason why deniers disbelieve is because:
  • They are illiterate and stupid (Smacks of Statistical Mechanic)
  • Have no training in the skills of logic and critical thinking
  • Are Jude hating neo nazis or white supremacists or something.
It would appear that the fact that there is insufficient compelling evidence has not sunk in. The Nessie kind of arguments, A and B was used by philosophers of the past to prove the existence of god, the culmination being how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. This is where Dr Terry comes in; he proudly provides more adminicles and makes suggestions that the angels do not dance on the head of a pin but do gymnastics on several pins. He has his believers of course but this does not dismiss the fact that there are no angels, just pins, some rusty. Likewise with the alleged holocaust there is none, just Juden, some dead.

At Nürnberg the Judicial Notice given that the holocaust was a fact is the source of the error. The defendants could not dispute this. It would be helpful if there was access to a lawyer (non-jüdisch) who could carefully analyse those proceedings. Perhaps Hannover (or is it Hang over) at CODOH might get one to write a book.

Re: Value of the CODOH Forum

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:59 pm
by Frankie
Callahan does what he does best, lies when he's embarrassed by his own actions.

A moderator did send him a note about his behavior
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13158
When posting links it is incumbent upon you to state why you find them relevant, valuable to points being made.
from guidelines:
If you post a quote or link from or to a book, a news article, magazine story, another website, etc., you must also comment on the quote or the link content. Tell the forum what you find wrong, compelling, unique, or important about the quote or link content. Flippant, overly brief comments are not acceptable. We want commentary and discussion.

When challenged on your claims you must respond specifically, do not just say 'see the link' which you never went into in the first place.
from guidelines:
No 'dodging'. When questioned or challenged on claims, or assertions you make in a thread you must respond directly / specifically by providing the information requested in the challenge or you must leave the topic.

Please review all guidelines which you agreed to when registering:
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=358

Thanks, Moderator
FYI:
Hannover is not the moderator. In fact there is more than one moderator there from what I've been told.
He must truly be amazing since he's been said to be endless numbers of guys, like Rudolf, Bradley Smith, Graf, Faurisson, Brian Renk, on & on.
Keep up the good work Hannover.

There's more from Callahan, who as anyone can see, dodges challenges, loses it when he's shown to be BS by Hannover who Callahan is weirdly obsessed over:
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... han#p95964
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... han#p91018
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... han#p90532
Hannover even encourages low information Callahan:
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... han#p54893
another one from the moderator:
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... han#p50906

Anyway, fragile little Callahan needs to grow up. He only has himself to blame.
This is a tough business, facts talk, bullshit walks.

Re: Value of the CODOH Forum

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:19 am
by Frankie
embarrased Huntinger says:
Does not change the point the moderation is totalitarian.
LOL

Yet you cannot demonstrate a single on topic point that has been censored:
name a specific "holocaust" topic censored / banned here
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7322

And of course everyone agrees to the guidelines which children like you & Callahan think don't apply to them.

Re: Value of the CODOH Forum

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:30 am
by Huntinger
Frankie wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:19 am
And of course everyone agrees to the guidelines which children like you & Callahan think don't apply to them.
Of course we were all expecting you Frankie; you cannot help yourself. You are indeed an inspiration for everyone to join that non event called a forum. :| Once internet forums were abundant but "over moderation", a power trip, has resulted in their demise. As others have said posts on CODOH simply disappear. From memory even Nessie complained about his posts vanishing; he is not the only one.

The hoaxers are well aware of the demise of CODOH and how they are out of touch with the common person, the exact people which forums like yours should try and reach.