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Werd is also ignorant of how the 1960s investigations and trials in West Germany unfolded. It was all too common to deny knowledge of mass killings, and even guards in Auschwitz sub-camps would claim not to have known about gassings in Birkenau. Neither interrogators nor courts forced any of the SS/Police witnesses to say anything. Nor were they prosecuted for doing so, or threatened with prosecution.
Nick Terry is refusing to acknowledge the topic I have made where I took Jonathan Harrison to task for his pathetic attack on Jurgen Graf about the German trials.
Why does this matter? Because I admitted in that old topic, AND THIS CURRENT ONE, that judicial notice was NEVER TAKEN BY ANY JUDGE in any of these trials. I in fact point out where MANY DEFENDANTS IN FACT DENIED PARTICIPATION IN, OR EVEN KNOWLEDGE OF THE HOLOCAUST GAS CHAMBERS OR GAS VANS! The first example I quoted in that old topic referenced a trial where the defendant had an excellent hound dog for a defense lawyer. To the point that journalists were complaining that he was harassing "eyewitnesses" on the stand.
Nick Terry ALSO REFUSES to tell the readers what judicial notice REALLY MEANS even though I quoted and explained it fully here.
He also ignores the point that any judicial notice, even if it was taken by judges in the German trials (WHICH IT WASN'T SINCE THE NEW LAW MADE IT UNNECESSARY AS I ALREADY EXPLAINED), doesn't preclude pleading ignorance of, or denial of the holocaust. I just made that point. More than once!!!
Werd is also ignorant on how West German (and Austrian) courts went about proving the events in the camps in the relevant big trials - the precedent of IMT was effectively ignored on the details,
Yes, we all know about article 19 at IMT.
so prosecutions had to resubmit older evidence alongside new documents and the results of pretrial interrogations and to get witnesses into court. Indictments cited their sources very clearly, and are thus very useful guides to the state of knowledge at the time; judgements allude to these sources or cite them explicitly more rarely. So 1960s courts did not take 'judicial notice' of the Holocaust or gassing.
Nick Terry's lie right here is that he keeps acting like I think German trials didn't go through the trouble of normal court procedures that the IMT avoided doing. I WENT INTO DETAIL ABOUT MANY GERMAN TRIALS THAT OBEYED THE RULES OF EVIDENCE WAY BETTER THAN IMT IN THE FIRST TOPIC I MADE TAKING JONATHAN HARRISON TO TASK!!!
Nick Terry needs to stop embarrassing himself and stop with the false insinuations about what I allegedly do or don't know.