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The holocaust revisionist movement, however, has been derailed by wackoes like Faurisson and Leuchter, and their devoted true-believers including Germar Rudolf and the bigots at CODOH--to promote the insane alternative idea that mass gassings would have been categorically "impossible." They are simply "NUTS."
EDIT: NSDAP, Please understand that I am not being sarcastic when I make reference to your engineering/scholarly abilities. Your scholarly approach is appreciated. Okay?
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(Degesch G.m.b.H., Frankfurt am Main: 1937)
This Degesch handbook is 126 pages and discusses various harmful pests and fumigation methods and state-of-the-art gassing technologies. Dr. Bruno Tesch and Dr. Gerhard Peters are contributing authors.
The book also has some very interesting diagrams and photographs.
I have a lot of work to do to make these files smaller in bandwidth and still be readable. The files are on the big side and are image scans, not optically-encoded text yet. Eventually this Degesch handbook in English will go into the RODOH Reference section.
So each part is a few megabytes and may take a little time to download but not too bad--so if you are interested, here is a little taster:
degesch1937/ILLUSTRATIONS_pp102-126.pdf 2.7 MB
degesch1937/pp01-17.pdf 2.3 MB
degesch1937/pp62-87.pdf 4.1 MB
degesch1937/pp88-91.pdf 702 kB
degesch1937/pp92-101.pdf 1.5 MB
Start by looking at the illustrations, pages 102-126. Not only did the good folks at Degesch fumigate PLANES, TRAINS, SHIPS, and AUTOMOBILES--all over the world--but they were even fumigating furniture VANS. I guess you could call these "Real Gas-Vans."
Degesch has provided us with all the technical details to build your gas-chambers. For example, they explain the Kreislauf (circulation) method with Zyklon-B and literally show us how it is done.
And the Degesch folks here refute some other ideas that have taken hold in the Revisionist community, such as Prof. Faurisson's idea that you could not gas people because it would leave oceans of cyanide to clean up.
If you can gas sides of beef or other victuals at borders or in the holds of ships in non-Nazi countries, you could probably homicidally gas real people anywhere else. And what is more, the Germans were already using autoclaves and Degesch technologies using Zyklon-B in their concentration camps--some of it still visible today.
In the parts on ship fumigation and hydrogen cyanide characteristics, the authors even explain Leuchter's overwrought flammability concerns of hydrogen cyanide fumigation in practical concentration ranges, and why this is the case.
For example, on page 89 of the chapter on ship fumigation, the authors list some very direct points:
" 3) HCN gas, in consequence of its chemical indifference to cargo, victuals and furniture does not necessitate the clearing of provision stores or cargo on board the ships, nor need furniture be removed. "
And they follow with this rather bold statement:
" 4) HCN is neither inflammable nor explosive. "
WOW. JUST. WOW.
And did I mention that it was in English...
“Now we have forced Hitler to war so he no longer can peacefully annihilate one piece of the Treaty of Versailles after the other.”
historian – England
This seems blatantly true Friedrich, thank you for your input into this matter, much appreciated. I saw photos of these railroad de lousing chambers years ago and thought they were rather sophisticated as "hangars" or rolling stock sheds for trains so to speak. The technology was rather sophisticated in comparison to the alleged gasing Leichenkeller at Auschwitz.
Spasibo Rollo, I thought the information Scott and Friedrich had was interesting enough to instigate a discussion. Sometimes I think it is interesting to discuss topics instead of debating them and this one seemed compelling. Scott has put forward some interesting material to read and digest which will be perused with great interest. Perhaps you should look at it too Rollo, and your ideas would be welcome. To me perhaps at first and second glance is that there was more than sufficient technology to gas Juden and others properly, if that technology was used in the de-lousing chamber at Auschwitz and elsewhere; it was used at the docks, the railways for instance but seemingly never used at the places where it would have been necessary. Despite the other logistics such as the Leichenkeller scenario at Auschwitz; fitting 2000 people like sardines into a room through a single door, the very poor elevator systems and Kapos hooking people by the neck in a poisonous atmosphere,the crematoria not designed for mass burning throwing cyanide pellets into a large room would not work, with expected efficiency. Considering what was spent on that camp already, rigging it out to be an effective gassing chamber using the techniques as mentioned by Scott below would have been imperative. The designs would have very different and yes it could have been done using Zyklon B but it was not.(I suspect it was tried on a smaller scale in smaller buildings..evidence here is shaky). The existing Leichenkeller could have been modified for this purpose to have been an effective functioning murderous gas chamber but it was not done.
Thank you for this Scott, I have a lot of reading to do.
I already have, in depth, and I find the idea a bit absurd. I'd be repeating myself to say why but if you want to make some comments please feel free to do so. I find it difficult to have faith in someone (Berg and maybe Scott) who believe in a 1937 book on hydrogen cyanide stating that HCN is neither flammable or explosive whereas all modern literature, MSDS sheets, etc., etc., etc., not only say otherwise but give the parameters by which it has those properties.NSDAP wrote:Perhaps you should look at it too Rollo, and your ideas would be welcome.
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