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The immediately refers to arrival at the scene of the death of the coroner. That is some time AFTER the death. By which time lividity is appearing. Coroners are not paramedics
You were given evidence of the appearance by a nursing student after seeing the body of a gassing due to suicide. This has been mentioned three times now and you fail to acknowledge it. This trolling tactic is simply not acceptable. Evidence is asked for and when given is simply ignored.
Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.
The Risser, Boensch essay makes no qualification about its repeated use of the common word "immediately." It says nothing about the clock starting ONLY after the coroner arrived at the death scene. "Immediately" could ONLY mean immediately after death.
Nessie is desperate because he knows the "credibility" of the LIEwitnesses is the key to the hoax's success. Without those LIEwitnesses, the Hoax is DEAD!
The immediately refers to arrival at the scene of the death of the coroner. That is some time AFTER the death. By which time lividity is appearing. Coroners are not paramedics
You were given evidence of the appearance by a nursing student after seeing the body of a gassing due to suicide. This has been mentioned three times now and you fail to acknowledge it. This trolling tactic is simply not acceptable. Evidence is asked for and when given is simply ignored.
and I said "That quote is not in the link". Maybe at some point you will get round to producing the evidence I asked for, rather than ignoring me.
Once again deliberate trolling. The link was made in the original post but his speedybyrd method of skim reading makes him skip it. It make a comment without considered reflection, his other trolling technique. Your liewitnesses have failed lake boy.
Wenn wir die Flagge, die wir aus dem Nichts gerissen haben, nicht halten können, müssen Sie, meine Söhne und Töchter, greifendie Fahne in deiner Faust...Führer der NSDAP Adolf Hitler
The Risser, Boensch essay makes no qualification about its repeated use of the common word "immediately." It says nothing about the clock starting ONLY after the coroner arrived at the death scene. "Immediately" could ONLY mean immediately after death.
Nessie is desperate because he knows the "credibility" of the LIEwitnesses is the key to the hoax's success. Without those LIEwitnesses, the Hoax is DEAD!
FPBerg
Indeed Friedrich, the troll is becoming rather shrill as he now knows the game is up; more clutching at straws along the river of truth. He deliberately fails to regard modern testimony of nurses dealing with CO suicide victims. As the game is up for him, it is also up for all the so called medical experts that have given misinformation on this issue. The hoax is totally exposed.
Wenn wir die Flagge, die wir aus dem Nichts gerissen haben, nicht halten können, müssen Sie, meine Söhne und Töchter, greifendie Fahne in deiner Faust...Führer der NSDAP Adolf Hitler
Thank you Werd, though we have researched more modern accounts which also verify the reports you gave. The Hoax has failed on this point and our troll knows it. Without the witnesses, the Nuremberg trials are put into serious doubt (they are anyway) and it will be interesting to see the British Government squirm out of this one. Angela should consider moving to Switzerland and resume her duties in Quantum Physics for which she is qualified. She is inept as the leader of Deutschland. Germany will awaken as the world is now to this incredible demeaning hoax.
Wenn wir die Flagge, die wir aus dem Nichts gerissen haben, nicht halten können, müssen Sie, meine Söhne und Töchter, greifendie Fahne in deiner Faust...Führer der NSDAP Adolf Hitler
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The student who was a witness to a real suicide gassing wrote: Decedent number two came in later and he was cherry red, because that’s what happens when you die of carbon monoxide poisoning. He had a tattoo that said “lonesome and broken-hearted” on his arm, so I can only assume that’s why he killed himself.
This testimony can be found here
The student nurse has seen a dead body once lividity has formed. The testimony is not in the link.
Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.
You checked Berg's clam and find it is immediately on attending the scene of death, not immediately at the time of death. You explain the problems with Berg's claim here;
Werd wrote:t is thus about immediate recognition from his point of view, which says nothing about how soon or immediately the first appeace of livor mortis BEGAN since medical literature states it has taken/can take anywhere from as soon as 20 minutes to as long as 3 hours for a first appearance of livor mortis. Details are lacking from this short essay about how soon it was the medical examiner got there. And furthermore, we don't know how long the person was dead from CO poisoning before someone found the body and called for help. The intent and meaning of "immediatly" depends on the context of its usage.
The medical evidence is that lividity takes time to form as the blood settles. Coroners are called to death scenes after people have already been found dead by others. It is reasonable that by the time the coroner has got to the death scene, lividity is well on its way to forming.
Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.
No Nessie he saw a fresh body, but as lividity can start after 30 mins it is a variable. The testimony is in that link take time to read it. If necessary investigate it as we are doing right now plus other ones. Please do your homework before responding in a reflex fashion as though you are supporting a cause. You said you are interested in the truth. Please continue this as uncomfortable as it will be for all of us.
Wenn wir die Flagge, die wir aus dem Nichts gerissen haben, nicht halten können, müssen Sie, meine Söhne und Töchter, greifendie Fahne in deiner Faust...Führer der NSDAP Adolf Hitler
No Nessie he saw a fresh body, but as lividity can start after 30 mins it is a variable. The testimony is in that link take time to read it. If necessary investigate it as we are doing right now plus other ones. Please do your homework before responding in a reflex fashion as though you are supporting a cause. You said you are interested in the truth. Please continue this as uncomfortable as it will be for all of us.
There is nothing about carbon monoxide or cherry red in this link;
Scott - On a side note, this forum is turning into a joke with the vicious attacks--and completely unnecessary vitriol--that everybody is making upon each other.
