The 'Achilles heel' of 'THE holocaust' - witnesses!

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Turnagain wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:41 pm
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Yes, she likely exaggerated.
Gee, did she engage in "hyperbole", too? Did she maybe make a itty bitty "mistake"? How about we try, "The bitch was lying her arse off".
How about you explain why deniers think that witnesses exposed to a long term traumatic experience would give matter of fact, unemotional statements about what happened to them?
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Nessie wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:59 pm
How about you explain why deniers think that witnesses exposed to a long term traumatic experience would give matter of fact, unemotional statements about what happened to them?
Never considered conning people to get some benefit would be a traumatic experience, short or long term.


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Indeed, Nessie claims that ALL so-called survivors were so traumatized that they couldn't tell the truth. Curious how victims of other traumatic experiences, the Bataan death march, the sinking of the USS Indianapolis, the survivors of Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge regime can all write coherent and truthful accounts of those experiences but the Jews? Nah, they were all traumatized into exaggerations, hyperbole and mistakes. Perhaps the kikes are just so emotive and dramatic that they can't help it. They're just constitutionally incapable of writing a true account of what happened to them at the hands of the eeevul Narzis.

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Here a Jewish child of two Jews who had been interred in numerous concentration camps, narrates how even his parents were disgusted by the lies, exaggerations and absurdities of those Jews who invented deceitful, self-aggrandising stories and cashed in on the ‘holocaust’.

Erm... disgusted with people just like Eva Erben.

Only a gullible, stupid person or a deceitful, dishonest person would try to justify and conceal such obvious, lying absurdities by people such as Eva.

Only a stupid, gullible person or a deliberate deceiver would accept the lies and exaggerations in what this Jewish person described as the “shelves upon shelves” of “schlock” that is accepted in libraries, bookstores and even universities around the world as historical truth.

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Turnagain wrote:
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Indeed, Nessie claims that ALL so-called survivors were so traumatized that they couldn't tell the truth. Curious how victims of other traumatic experiences, the Bataan death march, the sinking of the USS Indianapolis, the survivors of Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge regime can all write coherent and truthful accounts of those experiences but the Jews? Nah, they were all traumatized into exaggerations, hyperbole and mistakes. Perhaps the kikes are just so emotive and dramatic that they can't help it. They're just constitutionally incapable of writing a true account of what happened to them at the hands of the eeevul Narzis.
I do not believe for one moment that you have read and studied all of those witness statements.
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Nessie wrote:
I do not believe for one moment that you have read and studied all of those witness statements.
If that's the case, why don't you name a credible Jew author or witness that doesn't require your laundry list of "exaggerations", "hyperbole, etc.

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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:47 am
Nessie wrote:
I do not believe for one moment that you have read and studied all of those witness statements.
If that's the case, why don't you name a credible Jew author or witness that doesn't require your laundry list of "exaggerations", "hyperbole, etc.
I have not read any Jewish Sonderkommando testimony that is unemotional, matter of fact and does not contain any likely hearsay, exaggerations, hyperbole, mistakes or estimations.

Unlike you, I am not surprised by that, since those people experienced prolonged trauma and when it came to giving evidence, they were having to admit to their own complicity in murder and they were experiencing the usual survivor guilt. Furthermore, they were having to prove their claims, which many doubted. That is why the Polish organised investigating Judges to interview the witnesses and even take them to the camps, they wanted to be certain they were telling the truth and that there was evidence.

I am also not surprised that the Nazi testimony is unemotional, more matter of fact and lacks many details. They had been acting under orders and believed what they had done was a good thing. When they knew they would be tried for what happened, they played down their roles and conveniently forgot a lot about what happened. They were far less forthcoming about what happened at the AR camps and in the A-B kremas.

Deniers have a very odd idea about witness evidence, which is clearly designed to conform to their bias about Jewish people.
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IOW you admit that there aren't any truthful witnesses to the events that your witnesses lied about. No electric Jew dunking tilt-a-whirl, no pedal powered brain bashers, no lethal masturbation machines, no steam/gas/vacuum chambers or magic Jew barbeques but we're supposed to believe such lies and fantasies. Nessie is engaging in wilful suspension of disbelief and demands that everyone else do so also. Peddle your fantasies down the street, Nessie.

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Turnagain wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:43 am
IOW you admit that there aren't any truthful witnesses to the events that your witnesses lied about. No electric Jew dunking tilt-a-whirl, no pedal powered brain bashers, no lethal masturbation machines, no steam/gas/vacuum chambers or magic Jew barbeques but we're supposed to believe such lies and fantasies. Nessie is engaging in wilful suspension of disbelief and demands that everyone else do so also. Peddle your fantasies down the street, Nessie.
IOW, I noted that the victim testimony is not surprisingly more emotive than the perpetrator testimony. I also note what is hearsay and what is eyewitness evidence and unlike you, I ignore hearsay because it is too unreliable. I also note what eyewitness evidence is corroborated.
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Sell the German's pitiful coerced "confessions" down the street, Nessie.

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