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by Statistical Mechanic
Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:57 pm
Forum: Holocaust & Genocide Discussion and Debate
Topic: Wannsee
Replies: 912
Views: 57673

Re: Wannsee

Good Grief! I ask SM if he wants to discuss the Wannsee Protocol in relation to the Baltic States and he tells me in so many words; "No, and go fuck off." I think what I said was that I wouldn't humor you. And that I didn't feel the need to repeat any further points and questions you ignored or dod...
by Statistical Mechanic
Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:48 pm
Forum: Holocaust & Genocide Discussion and Debate
Topic: Wannsee
Replies: 912
Views: 57673

Re: Wannsee

...[snip]... Of course, none of this is "the proof" of any plan or course of events. Yes. Good. We are agreed. It is not proof. I don't think we agree in the least. Because you follow your "agreement" up with inanity: I am arguing that just as we wouldn't accept this as proof of an Allies genocide ...
by Statistical Mechanic
Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:15 pm
Forum: Holocaust & Genocide Discussion and Debate
Topic: Wannsee
Replies: 912
Views: 57673

Re: Wannsee

Of course I do. And it has the added benefit of showing you once again doing crap history. Okay, if you like them so much then, please explain how they fit into your story. Was Goebbels just trolling in his own personal diary? He learns about the extermination in December 1941 from Hitler himself, ...
by Statistical Mechanic
Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:20 am
Forum: Holocaust & Genocide Discussion and Debate
Topic: Wannsee
Replies: 912
Views: 57673

Re: Wannsee

With Goebbels, we have first a diary entry from early March with a somewhat botched reference to the protocol. You keep referring to this. But I do too, as I think it shows something important. Now, later in the month we have Goebbels writing differently, this time making clear statements about the...
by Statistical Mechanic
Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:02 am
Forum: Holocaust & Genocide Discussion and Debate
Topic: Wannsee
Replies: 912
Views: 57673

Re: Wannsee

The problem as I see it is that the currently accepted consensus understanding of the holocaust mythology of a genocidal policy can only stand if all the parts of the mythology stand together. If one part falls the whole 'structure' falls and collapses. Why on earth should this be so, getting rid o...
by Statistical Mechanic
Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:11 am
Forum: Holocaust & Genocide Discussion and Debate
Topic: Wannsee
Replies: 912
Views: 57673

Re: Wannsee

the Wannsee Protocol - when read as meaning exactly what is in fact actually written there - provides just ONE more piece of documentary proof that the total or final solution was about deportation, as has been shown with all the other related but ignored documentation. False, I have spoken to your...
by Statistical Mechanic
Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:39 am
Forum: Holocaust & Genocide Discussion and Debate
Topic: Wannsee
Replies: 912
Views: 57673

Re: Wannsee

As a matter of fact, the Wannsee conference is still presented as a key point, a decision to go to next level, that is genocide. By which historians? I don't know of any important historian writing recently who would share such an opinion of the conference. Gerlach, Browning, Hilberg, Longerich, Ke...
by Statistical Mechanic
Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:08 am
Forum: Holocaust & Genocide Discussion and Debate
Topic: Wannsee
Replies: 912
Views: 57673

Re: Wannsee

I don't recall Britain pumping out vast amounts of blatantly unpleasant imagery in which [the perceived enemy] ...is depicted as a spider; as a chimera squatting on top of the globe, as a hook-nose,as a sexual pervert, as a capitalist, as a demon...[etc., etc., etc.,] Britain I don't know, but Amer...
by Statistical Mechanic
Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:05 am
Forum: Holocaust & Genocide Discussion and Debate
Topic: Wannsee
Replies: 912
Views: 57673

Re: Wannsee

WW2 was NOT waged to eradicate Jews from the world. Except that Third Reich leaders framed the conflict in this manner. Another excellent topic for a thread - the National Socialist world-view, the place of the Jews in that world-view, and the National Socialist understanding of the role of Jews in...
by Statistical Mechanic
Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:17 pm
Forum: Holocaust & Genocide Discussion and Debate
Topic: Wannsee
Replies: 912
Views: 57673

Re: Wannsee

But I asked you where do you get your figures from. So, for this 1 in 204 chance , this ratio is based upon 'before and after' population figures. Whose research/figures? How do we know they are reliable? ... Er... do you see where this is going? I am not disputing the mathematical probability aspe...